Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Sep 2012 19:36 UTC
Apple I bought a brand new iMac on Tuesday. I'm pretty sure this will come as a surprise to some, so I figured I might as well offer some background information about this choice - maybe it'll help other people who are also pondering what to buy as their next computer.
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RE[3]: buying imac
by Morgan on Sun 30th Sep 2012 00:15 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: buying imac"
Morgan
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2005-06-29

Oh believe me, I'm not defending Apple on this. I think they were major assholes to do this, not only because I feel they had no basis for the suit in the first place, but also that they were using it as part of an attack on Android in general. Even though I'm not an Android fanboy I feel Apple should compete on merits, not in the courtroom.

I was referring to Samsung's latest hardware releases which truly do ape Apple hardware in overt ways. Their Windows 8 tablet hybrid looks so much like a slightly thicker MacBook Air that it could easily be mistaken for an Apple device. It's almost as if they are saying "come at me again, iBro!"

As for the Galaxy phones, I'm in full agreement with you. They look and operate nothing like an iPhone, which in my personal opinion is a good thing.

My position remains the same though; they can fight it out all they want but I'm not taking sides by "voting with my wallet" anymore. Why limit myself because of something that my little purchases won't affect anyway? Most of the hardware I buy is secondhand anyway, so even if I do own a Sony or Apple or Samsung or whatever device, they never saw my money.

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RE[4]: buying imac
by Soulbender on Sun 30th Sep 2012 00:37 in reply to "RE[3]: buying imac"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Why limit myself because of something that my little purchases won't affect anyway?


On the other hand, if we all reasoned that way no positive change would ever occur.
Why shouldn't I buy goods produced in sweatshops under terrible conditions? Me not purchasing the goods wont change anything.
Why should I vote? My vote changes nothing.
Etc etc.

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RE[5]: buying imac
by WereCatf on Sun 30th Sep 2012 03:35 in reply to "RE[4]: buying imac"
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2006-02-15

On the other hand, if we all reasoned that way no positive change would ever occur.
Why shouldn't I buy goods produced in sweatshops under terrible conditions? Me not purchasing the goods wont change anything.


A single person, or even a handful of people, not buying such products would indeed not change a thing. Even if I gathered together 2000 people and convinced them to never, ever, buy anything from Apple it would simply be too little of a change for Apple to even notice it.

Your rhetorical question of "if we all reasoned that way" is simply not based on reality, it is based on ideals -- when you know there's billions of people out there buying a product you buying the product or not buying it won't affect the overall effect in the slightest.

Yes, pondering the morality of one's purchasing habits is healthy, but there is nothing wrong with taking the practical approach either.

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RE[4]: buying imac
by bitwelder on Sun 30th Sep 2012 08:46 in reply to "RE[3]: buying imac"
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2010-04-27

Most of the hardware I buy is secondhand anyway, so even if I do own a Sony or Apple or Samsung or whatever device, they never saw my money.

Hmm... I'm not sure that I would fully agree with that.
Perhaps the owner of the device you're planning to buy is just waiting to sell her stuff, in order to buy (using the money you'll give) the brand new iteration of that same device.

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RE[5]: buying imac
by WereCatf on Sun 30th Sep 2012 08:50 in reply to "RE[4]: buying imac"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

"Most of the hardware I buy is secondhand anyway, so even if I do own a Sony or Apple or Samsung or whatever device, they never saw my money.

Hmm... I'm not sure that I would fully agree with that.
Perhaps the owner of the device you're planning to buy is just waiting to sell her stuff, in order to buy (using the money you'll give) the brand new iteration of that same device.
"

If you start thinking about it that way then you can't EVER use money at all. I mean, at one point or another one of the hands you've given money to will give some of that money to some other entity and sooner or later it'll still end up in the pockets you don't want to support.

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RE[5]: buying imac
by Morgan on Sun 30th Sep 2012 16:06 in reply to "RE[4]: buying imac"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Maybe so, but if they didn't sell their old kit to me they would have sold it to someone else. Either way they will be buying another new item from that manufacturer, whether I bought from them or not. It's out of my hands.

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RE[4]: buying imac
by Mellin on Sun 30th Sep 2012 21:41 in reply to "RE[3]: buying imac"
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2005-07-06
RE[5]: buying imac
by Morgan on Sun 30th Sep 2012 21:54 in reply to "RE[4]: buying imac"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

I saw that article when it first came out and I was surprised Apple never went after them, especially since they went so far as to put an Apple trademark on it as well.

But you know very well that what I'm referring to is a different thing altogether. What you linked to was some third-rate overt clone of an already released product. What Samsung's tablet hybrid looks like -- at least to me -- is perhaps where Apple had planned to take the MacBook Air for its next big revision. In fact, owning a "tablet hybrid" for the past week has made me wonder why Apple didn't do this long ago, perhaps with the second iteration of the iPad.

Either way, I applaud Samsung's brass balls in this instance; taking a questionable verdict and throwing it out the window, flipping Apple off with a device that takes Apple's own design cues and puts them to work in a way that makes every iDevice out there seem a decade old.

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