Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 2nd Oct 2012 00:05 UTC
Multimedia, AV "On October 1 1982, Joel's sixth studio album, 52nd Street, was the first commercially released CD album... Which means CDs are 30-years-old today. It's worth noting here that 52nd Street wasn't a new album - it was launched initially in 1978, but it was selected for relaunch on the new digital audio disc, rolling out alongside the first CD player - the Sony CDP-101 - in Japan. But of course, the CD didn't spring up overnight - the road to launch started long before 1982." I'm still 100% CD when it comes to music. The act of physically holding a new album in your hands for the first time and gently placing the disk in the tray can't be matched by pressing a download button behind a computer.
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RE[2]: I don't like cds but
by WereCatf on Tue 2nd Oct 2012 07:13 UTC in reply to "RE: I don't like cds but"
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Redbook audio (which is whats used for a cd) is not compressed.

I believe he is confused between compression of levels and actual data compression -- those two are indeed not even nearly the same thing. The kind of compression he refers to when he mentions CDs is typically called 'loudness' yet he goes on to compare it to algorithmic compression of data streams. That is a mistake not a single, true audiophile would make.

Here's two links about loudness: and

The above is only (mostly) true because most modern formats share similarities in key parts of their encoding algorithms. It should also be noted that the optimal encoder settings are on a per case basis. In other words, what works well for one piece make not for another.

Indeed. The encoder isn't actually modified in any way or form as the OP seems to believe, the whole "mastered for iTunes" is all about guidelines for mastering the content for the average iTunes - user. All the work is done by the professional behind the master, there is no magic about the encoder.

Another link to share:

For anyone who truly cares about audio quality or who boldly labels themselves as an audiophile (most of which aren't), I strongly urge you to learn what mastering really is, and how audio is produced for different delivery/presentation methods. It's a complex topic with many sub-topics. That the reason why so many people mistakenly say things like `cd quality`.

Heh. I'm far from an audiophile -- I can barely hear the difference between a loud fart in the forest and Sibelius' Finlandia -- but atleast I know what mastering means and how one master fits for one case and why but not another.

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