Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 2nd Oct 2012 00:05 UTC
Multimedia, AV "On October 1 1982, Joel's sixth studio album, 52nd Street, was the first commercially released CD album... Which means CDs are 30-years-old today. It's worth noting here that 52nd Street wasn't a new album - it was launched initially in 1978, but it was selected for relaunch on the new digital audio disc, rolling out alongside the first CD player - the Sony CDP-101 - in Japan. But of course, the CD didn't spring up overnight - the road to launch started long before 1982." I'm still 100% CD when it comes to music. The act of physically holding a new album in your hands for the first time and gently placing the disk in the tray can't be matched by pressing a download button behind a computer.
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RE[2]: I don't like cds but
by kurkosdr on Tue 2nd Oct 2012 10:17 UTC in reply to "RE: I don't like cds but"
kurkosdr
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2011-04-11

"I'm one of those oddballs that can actually hear the difference between a cd and a compressed file (note though that cds themselves are compressed, just to a lesser extent)."

Switch your consumer electronics player with a PC with a good audio player installed and you won't be able to tell the difference. Any real audiophile or videophile always plays things on a PC, and preferably with open-source software. For some reason, open-source players offer the highest precision. Proprietary software players and consumer electronics a)take shortcuts in the decoding part and b)distrort the audio or video to give average Joe a "more impressive" version of the content.

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RE[3]: I don't like cds but
by daedalus on Tue 2nd Oct 2012 10:33 in reply to "RE[2]: I don't like cds but"
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2011-01-14

Eh, are you for real? Find yourself a good CD player and amp and, while they will have options for shaping the sound, it will always have a direct through setup, so the sound from the source is unaltered (except by amplification) as it passes through the amp.

Besides, inside the average PC is one of the most horrible, electrically noisy environments you can get. That's why they usually put them in metal boxes - to screen the rest of the world from their nasty electrical interference. If you really wanted to be seriously audiophilic about your PC, you'd probably want to be using an external Firewire sound card. Anyway, you'll still need to put it through an amp and speaker set, and therefore risk misshaping your sound anyway.

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RE[4]: I don't like cds but
by kurkosdr on Tue 2nd Oct 2012 11:14 in reply to "RE[3]: I don't like cds but"
kurkosdr Member since:
2011-04-11

"Besides, inside the average PC is one of the most horrible, electrically noisy environments you can get. That's why they usually put them in metal boxes - to screen the rest of the world from their nasty electrical interference. If you really wanted to be seriously audiophilic about your PC, you'd probably want to be using an external Firewire sound card."

If you have a seperate DAC for every device (in plain english, if you are using the noname DAC that's inside each device/computer), instead of driving all sound to a trusted standalone DAC sitting on your rack (using digital connection), then you are doing it wrong. Having a PC for decoding and a seperate DAC is the best option IMO.

PS: And by "DAC" I mean both a stereo one and those 5.1 "home cinema systems". Just make sure you get one of the good ones.

Edited 2012-10-02 11:22 UTC

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RE[3]: I don't like cds but
by darknexus on Tue 2nd Oct 2012 12:00 in reply to "RE[2]: I don't like cds but"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Switch your consumer electronics player with a PC with a good audio player installed and you won't be able to tell the difference.


What? I mean I can take a cd, rip to lossless, encode it to a lossy format, decode the resulting file on my pc, play the new file and hear the difference. Way to go making assumptions. Also note that I do not claim to be an audiophile, but I'm able to hear the difference. I can only hear the difference on my computer for the most part, as you are correct that most consumer players have crap hardware. You're assumptions match the opposite of what I was saying though, as it's on such crappy players that I can't tell the difference precisely because the hardware and software driving them are crap, often intentionally so. The worse the hardware, the less likely you are to be able to hear minute artifacts from either data compression or recording glitches. Of course, on the flip side, such players often introduce artifacts of their own into the audio while playing it.

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