Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 2nd Oct 2012 18:23 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless After a few months of relative silence and vagueness, we're finally getting something tangible from Jolla, the promising mobile phone company which came forth from former Nokia employees. It's ambitious - they're not just going to create a mobile operating system, not just a mobile phone, but an entire ecosystem, including cloud services and data centres. At its heart? The beautiful city of Hong Kong. The prime target market? China.
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Developing for China
by Alfman on Tue 2nd Oct 2012 21:00 UTC
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I can see why China makes sense due to it's huge growth potential. However I wonder if that decision was influenced at all the over-the-top patent litigation going on in the west? If they are determined to build the best products they can, then it certainly makes sense to do so in a region which is beyond the reach of western patent holders who are willing and able to exercise their government granted monopoly controls in the market.

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RE: Developing for China
by gan17 on Tue 2nd Oct 2012 22:26 in reply to "Developing for China"
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2008-06-03

Patents are definitely one reason. Market size is another. Then there's the untapped developer potential (sheer number of graduates) and bigger availability of future sponsors/backers.

It remains to be seen whether this will serve as a double-edged sword with regards to applications. The Chinese software/app market is kinda like the US sports market. Rest of the world doesn't get it.

Jolla might end up being kick-ass like Meego, or it might end up as Baidu's version of Android... or something in-between.

Either way, best of luck to them.

Edited 2012-10-02 22:27 UTC

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RE[2]: Developing for China
by zima on Sat 6th Oct 2012 16:55 in reply to "RE: Developing for China"
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2005-07-06

It remains to be seen whether this will serve as a double-edged sword with regards to applications. The Chinese software/app market is kinda like the US sports market. Rest of the world doesn't get it.

I'm genuinely curious what you mean here / some examples? :>
(BTW, some time ago I realised that Foxit is Chinese ...so maybe we also largely just don't realise how much software comes from / is made via off-shoring in PRC; Netants - my download manager of choice in dial-up days - also from there, IIRC)

Jolla might end up being kick-ass like Meego, or it might end up as Baidu's version of Android... or something in-between.

Not sure if "kick-ass" is the most fortunate description... (for example http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n9-2-en.shtml & especially considering enormous R&D costs and the time it took; not sure from where the perpetuated myth comes, perhaps some people wish to see it as better than it was; and why should be expect much different from Jolla?...)

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RE: Developing for China
by dsmogor on Wed 3rd Oct 2012 06:35 in reply to "Developing for China"
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

Smartphone penetration in the western countries will be nearing saturation in the next 2 years. The marking of slowdown are already visible. Then it'd be only taking about sales directly from the competitors.
China and India are where the growth will be.

In the other hand if they don't get a foothold for the Jolla services in developed markets they might loose in the long term the same way as e.g. now evidenced by the platforms what were long leading mobile innovation in Japan and Korea. They need to be on a good terms with Facebook, Twitter, mapping providers (Nokia ?:)).
Developing kick ass integration with Chinese social internet in close cooperation with those companies is a good start though.

Edited 2012-10-03 06:54 UTC

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RE[2]: Developing for China
by dsmogor on Wed 3rd Oct 2012 07:09 in reply to "RE: Developing for China"
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

Tomi Ahonen stated, that in 2011 Nokia had a pretty much done deal with biggest China telecom to push MeeGo big time. It's understandable, Chinese government wants independence from US based ecosystems to control what will no doubt be big part of economy in the comming years. They will do whats possible to hamper Google, Apple and MS services growth in that market.
In the same time they want competitive software and so far have failed in pursuing that on their own.
Maybe Jolla bets on restoring that deal, maybe.

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