Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 3rd Oct 2012 22:21 UTC
Windows Paul Allen, one of Microsoft's co-founders who left the company long ago, has posted on his blog about his experiences with Windows 8. He (surprise) likes it, but he does note a number of shortcomings and oddities - all of which are spot-on. However, he fails to address the core issue with Windows 8: it's forcing users to drill a small hole in the wall with a belt sander.
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by UltraZelda64 on Thu 4th Oct 2012 07:28 UTC
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2006-12-05

"Haven't we learned by now that cramming a desktop interface onto a mobile device - and vice versa - is simply very bad GUI design?"

No. The guys at the GNOME project and at Canonical still seem to think it's the wave of the future, and apparently Microsoft has other money-related priorities that are too important to get in the way of what is really meant to (and does) work.

They can shove their design up their ass though, because even on a tablet I don't want it. Why? Because even though it might feel just like home on one of those, they already fully lost my respect in the act of forcing it onto everyone--including desktop/laptop users. I don't want that shit at all if they're going to play this way with how they introduce it (ie. force it down our throats).

They could have had something that they could have been respected for, the right Windows for the right device, but instead they decided that their marketing reasons are more important than their users' experience.

To be fair, I didn't use Windows 8 for anywhere near as long as Thom did, and I sure as hell didn't use it as my primary OS (out of concern for my sanity). All it took was a few hours of *trying* to like it. I understood it just fine, and I could see where it would truly feel like the right UI for a tablet. But on my PC with a 20" monitor, keyboard and mouse--there's no way in hell I'll subject myself to that insanity for any longer than it takes to understand the GUI, its strengths and weaknesses, and realize that it's just an incredibly bad fit.

One thing I find highly ironic is that Microsoft basically took a previously-working desktop OS, attempted to get as close to gutting it from the OS as they can be making it a royal PITA to use and making the focus point strongly toward Metro--ie. a UI for tablets, phones and other weaker machines--and yet they STILL managed to make the system consume the same fucking amount of memory (or more) as their previous desktop version of Windows. Only at Microsoft...

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RE: No
by dnebdal on Thu 4th Oct 2012 08:30 in reply to "No"
dnebdal Member since:
2008-08-27

Mind you, gnome3 isn't actually aimed at tablets, and isn't really a touch OS. It doesn't even ... support touch usage, unless you pretend it's mouse input.
(With the caveat that I might be wrong - this is from memory.)

I'm not sure if that makes it better or worse.

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RE[2]: No
by sicofante on Thu 4th Oct 2012 17:09 in reply to "RE: No"
sicofante Member since:
2009-07-08

Actually Unity would be terrible on tablets too. It really shines in keyboard use. But the meme that Gnome Shell and Unity are designed for tablets won't stop overnight. There's just too many people that love repeating it again and again, wihout even having approached both desktops. Sigh...

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RE[2]: No
by terrakotta on Thu 4th Oct 2012 20:42 in reply to "RE: No"
terrakotta Member since:
2010-04-21

Considering it's a copy paste from webos, GNOME 3 most certainly is a touch interface. Actually if microsoft was so worried to get a unified look and feel they'd only need to copy webos too, considering the cards view is a dumbed down windows view. While I applaud them for wanting to try something really really new, the windows or card paradigm actually works quite well. The windows snap functions are really usefull and a good systemtray and taskbar can do miracles. Just to say, MS does not need a new interface, they could have gone with a les disturbing evolution of their old one, retaining the connection with their power users and attracting new users to tablets and phones.

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