Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 3rd Oct 2012 22:21 UTC
Windows Paul Allen, one of Microsoft's co-founders who left the company long ago, has posted on his blog about his experiences with Windows 8. He (surprise) likes it, but he does note a number of shortcomings and oddities - all of which are spot-on. However, he fails to address the core issue with Windows 8: it's forcing users to drill a small hole in the wall with a belt sander.
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RE[2]: Musings about Metro
by WorknMan on Thu 4th Oct 2012 19:07 UTC in reply to "RE: Musings about Metro"
WorknMan
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2005-11-13

Just out of curiosity, have you ever used the iPhone? Android? iPad? Windows Phone? Because ALL of them have horizontal scrolling UIs.


I have never seen a phone or tablet app that uses horizontal scrolling in an app, especially while you're reading. (See the Metro Wikipedia app as an example.) Again, somebody deserves to be beaten to death.

Furthermore, do you understand what's happening in the industry today?


Yeah, I understand exactly what's happening. Tablets are selling by the millions, so OS vendors are dumbing down the desktop experience in order to appeal to all those mouth breathers who think that iOS is the most advanced mobile OS on the planet.

Microsoft has done a pretty damned good job of creating a competitive tablet OS. Now, there are legitimate questions about whether it should have created different SKUs for different hardware targets; meaning that the desktop doesn't get Metro, tablets do, servers don't, laptops do. But there is also a credible argument that the consistency of the user interface across targets is more valuable to users; if they hadn't done this, there would be a lot of power users complaining about how different the SKUs were. Which means: Complaining is universal. You're not going to make everyone happy all the time.


I think MS could've made everybody happy by giving people the ability to disable Metro completely in Windows 8 and bring the Start menu back. That way, people who like Metro can have it, and people (like me) who don't can get rid of it.

If you want to make the same OS for tablet and desktop, that's okay. But at LEAST make it not suck so much ass on the desktop before you make it non-removable.

Look, I am not anti-Windows 8. In fact, I plan to upgrade to it myself. But to power users, there is absolutely no way you can defend that piece of shit known as Metro. If tech tards love it, fine. It is what it is. But I ain't loving it. At least not this release.

Edited 2012-10-04 19:11 UTC

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RE[3]: Musings about Metro
by Alfman on Thu 4th Oct 2012 19:49 in reply to "RE[2]: Musings about Metro"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

WorknMan,

"I think MS could've made everybody happy by giving people the ability to disable Metro completely in Windows 8 and bring the Start menu back. That way, people who like Metro can have it, and people (like me) who don't can get rid of it."

Exactly what I wanted to say. I can respect the opinion of those who like metro, as long as they can respect my opinion that I don't like it for what I do. I don't want to be dependent upon it to launch my applications.

As I mentioned in another post, the previews DID permit the restoration of the start menu through a registry hack, but microsoft is so adamant that we don't have this choice in win8 that they removed the code entirely.

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RE[4]: Musings about Metro
by ze_jerkface on Thu 4th Oct 2012 21:03 in reply to "RE[3]: Musings about Metro"
ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22


As I mentioned in another post, the previews DID permit the restoration of the start menu through a registry hack, but microsoft is so adamant that we don't have this choice in win8 that they removed the code entirely.


Oh it's worse than that, Sinfosky lied and said that enterprise and business versions of Windows would have Metro off by default. Now it's on fucking WINDOWS SERVER. What a glowing endorsement, forcing that crappy interface on their server OS.

Sinofsky probably realized that pirates would go after enterprise and server if it didn't have Metro. LOCK EM IN DERP DERP.

Oh well at least this idiotic plan will soon meet with reality and then shareholders will want Ballmer's head on a platter. Goodbye bozo.

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RE[4]: Musings about Metro
by jeffb on Sat 6th Oct 2012 03:32 in reply to "RE[3]: Musings about Metro"
jeffb Member since:
2005-07-19

Exactly what I wanted to say. I can respect the opinion of those who like metro, as long as they can respect my opinion that I don't like it for what I do. I don't want to be dependent upon it to launch my applications.

As I mentioned in another post, the previews DID permit the restoration of the start menu through a registry hack, but microsoft is so adamant that we don't have this choice in win8 that they removed the code entirely.


Microsoft sells a product that does what you want, Windows 7. Windows 8 treats Win32 as a legacy system, the same way that when Apple migrated to OSX it was never their goal to allow you to maintain a "classic" (OS9) desktop / applications experience.

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