Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 5th Oct 2012 10:45 UTC
Apple Beautiful video tribute and written message from Tim Cook regarding Steve Jobs, who passed away one year ago today.
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The real tribute...
by UltraZelda64 on Fri 5th Oct 2012 12:35 UTC
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2006-12-05

...is their ongoing lawsuits against Samsung and the rest of the Android cell phone industry.

Suing over ideas that, according to Jobs himself decades ago, were meant to be "stolen" by any "great artist."

Yeah. He shamelessly stole ideas. And then just before he died he started shamelessly suing everyone else for commiting the same sin that he once believed in. And now, the real tribute seems to be the fact that Apple is continuing his legacy, exactly as he left off. He died sue-happy; the company progressively gets even more sue-happy.

Edited 2012-10-05 12:39 UTC

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RE[2]: The real tribute...
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 5th Oct 2012 13:02 in reply to "RE: The real tribute..."
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2005-06-29

If you can't win it, spin it.

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RE: The real tribute...
by syngularyx on Fri 5th Oct 2012 15:59 in reply to "The real tribute..."
syngularyx Member since:
2012-02-01

The THEFT of ideas Picasso and Steve Jobs were talking about has NOTHING to do with the COPY of design, functions and appearance!
During his lead, Apple never copied a product of a competing Company the way Samsung (clearly) did.

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RE[2]: The real tribute...
by Mellin on Mon 8th Oct 2012 10:50 in reply to "RE: The real tribute..."
Mellin Member since:
2005-07-06

we get it apple invents and everybody else are stealing from apple

that court was a farce and should never be used!

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RE: The real tribute...
by Tony Swash on Fri 5th Oct 2012 16:45 in reply to "The real tribute..."
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2009-08-22

...is their ongoing lawsuits against Samsung and the rest of the Android cell phone industry.

Suing over ideas that, according to Jobs himself decades ago, were meant to be "stolen" by any "great artist."
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The quote you mention comes from comes from Steve Jobs 1995. The Lost Interview. It's often used and it is always used in a way that pretends it is about one thing when it is really about another.

In response to the question "But how do you know what's the right direction?" Steve Jobs said:

Ultimately it comes down to taste. It comes down to trying to to expose yourself to the best things humans have done and then try to bring those things in to what you are doing.

Picasso had a saying. He said good artists copy great artists steal. We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas. I think part of what made the Macintosh great was that the people working on it were musicians and poets and artists, and zoologists and historians who also happened to be the best computer scientists in the world. But if it hadn't been for computer science these people would have all been doing amazing things in life in other fields. And they brought with them to this effort [the Macintosh project] a very liberal arts attitude that we wanted to pull in the best we saw in these other fields into this field. I don't think you get that if you are very narrow
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So the oft used quote is about about bringing parts of other disciplines, from literature, art and culture, into computer science and product design. It is not about copying other products in part or in total.

What would, to use Jobs term, being very narrow mean in practice? Well it could mean endlessly dredging up a sentence from a Steve Jobs interview in 1995, taking it out of context, fetishising it, implying it is about one thing when it is about another, and then using it to try to pretend that Apple are not innovative and by implication that it is OK for other companies to rip off Apple designs.

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RE[2]: The real tribute...
by tylerdurden on Fri 5th Oct 2012 21:43 in reply to "RE: The real tribute..."
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

If you're not on Apple's payroll yet, do apply with them as you are certainly missing on monetizing on your emotional vestment on that company.

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