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Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris "Oracle today announced Oracle Solaris 11.1, delivering over 300 new performance and feature enhancements to the Oracle Solaris 11 product family." This stuff goes way over my head.
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Doc Pain
Member since:
2006-10-08

"I can't believe 80% of Linux reviews are reviews of how pretty the installer is, the desktop theme and the default package selection.


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That drives me nuts as well! Those are the least significant parts of a running system.
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But sadly, the most important ones considered by possible users. The "first sight effect" is important here. So any OS, no matter how powerful it is, will not appeal if the installer isn't a pretty conglomerate of GUI dialogs, in sequential manner, with defaults tailored for desktop use. Even among "geeks" (those who actually install an OS, because ordinary users aren't aware of what it is) this seems to be more and more important, and mostly found in... Linux reviews, yes.

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

So any OS, no matter how powerful it is, will not appeal if the installer isn't a pretty conglomerate of GUI dialogs, in sequential manner, with defaults tailored for desktop use.


If you are talking about home users, I agree with you.

In the enterprise world there are plenty of ugly OS to chose from. For example, I fail to see what systems still running VMS or OS/400 (now z/OS) have to do with pretty.

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Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

"So any OS, no matter how powerful it is, will not appeal if the installer isn't a pretty conglomerate of GUI dialogs, in sequential manner, with defaults tailored for desktop use.


If you are talking about home users, I agree with you.
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That's what I wanted to point out. Home users are considered the primary audience. Server OS like Solaris seem to be more and more regarded a niche market...

In the enterprise world there are plenty of ugly OS to chose from. For example, I fail to see what systems still running VMS or OS/400 (now z/OS) have to do with pretty.


You're confusing terminology: OS/400 has been called i5/OS, and today IBM i; let's see what name it will have tomorrow, z/OS is what MVS has been (the OS/360 line).

But you're right: Those systems aren't very pretty from a home user's point of view. Still they have strengths (like compatibility back to the 1970's), and many critical businesses (banking anyone?) rely on them. Also OS/400 is still very popular, but nobody really knows that.

VMS may be an exception. I know that MAN DIESEL did /at least 3 years ago) run VMS software on a SimH-emulated VAX system: http://www.openvms.org/stories.php?story=09/09/25/8154763

In my experience, it's not that much about "pretty vs. ugly", it's about "being different while seeing similarities". Still, most advantages come for the price of some inconvenience. I know many of them (having used mainframe, midrange and commercial UNIXes in many different forms) and I agree: There is lots of uglyness in them if you look close enough. :-)

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thegman Member since:
2007-01-30

OS/400 is not now z/OS, they are different Operating Systems. OS/400 became "IBM i", z/OS used to be OS/390.

This post will expire of course when IBM decide to rename their Operating Systems again.

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jessesmith Member since:
2010-03-11

This is true. However, more to the point, if the installer doesn't work then it doesn't matter how great the rest of the OS is. I've seen some pretty interesting projects which simply wouldn't install on my hardware. At makes the installer a pretty important part of any review: how flexible it is, how it handles errors, whether it has sane defaults, etc.

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