Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 5th Oct 2012 10:45 UTC
Apple Beautiful video tribute and written message from Tim Cook regarding Steve Jobs, who passed away one year ago today.
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RE[2]: I get it
by TM99 on Sun 7th Oct 2012 13:03 UTC in reply to "RE: I get it"
TM99
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2012-08-26

Except, Picasso never bloody well said that! That is revisionism and worship of Jobs at its best. It was T.S. Elliot who said something along those lines. Then Jobs uttered that it was Picasso, warped it to fit his need, and here we are today arguing over the content that he couldn't even get right.

Look, Jobs was a brilliant narcissist. He could say exactly what someone, anyone wanted to hear. He always had a justification for his behavior, good or bad, and said and did the opposite with regards to others. He 'copied' and 'innovated' on the shoulders of others. But god damned if any body else can do that with Apple.

The Reality Distortion Field is a part of the charm of a narcissist. Apple & Jobs said never would they produce a 7" iPad, yet here we are a month away from the production of one. It will be over-priced, shiny, and with the Apple logo something that all 'people' just have got to have. That is the legacy of Jobs, and what history will remember is not what Apple & Jobs gave but rather what a sociopathic CEO & his company took from the computing industry.

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RE[3]: I get it
by MOS6510 on Sun 7th Oct 2012 13:45 in reply to "RE[2]: I get it"
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2011-05-12

Picasso did say that and Elliot said "Immature poets imitate. Mature poets steal". So Picasso probably got inspired by Elliot and Steve quoted Picasso.

But it doesn't really matter who said what, but rather what it means. What it means is explained here a few times and can be found on a number of sites.

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RE[4]: I get it
by TM99 on Sun 7th Oct 2012 14:27 in reply to "RE[3]: I get it"
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2012-08-26

Repeating a meme doesn't make it true. It is a rumor, and it was T.S. Elliot (who didn't even use those words!) and many before him including Shakespeare.

The point is that Jobs used that quote to justify his 'way' but is it ok now for others to 'steal' from Apple and innovate the future of mobile computing as well?

http://gizmodo.com/5483914/steve-jobs-1996-good-artists-copy-great-...

For the current crop of Apple supporters, the answer is no. For those of us neutral to corporate love but following the tech industry closely because it is either our work or influences greatly our work & culture, if the answer is no, the consequences are not good for all us.

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RE[3]: I get it
by kovacm on Mon 8th Oct 2012 08:02 in reply to "RE[2]: I get it"
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2010-12-16

The Reality Distortion Field ..." ... "Jobs said never would they produce a 7"


heh... RDF.

please check: Jobs never said that!

it looks like that you are in RDF ;) and you wish that Jobs said that ;)

yours (and all Apple haters) problem is that you NEVER listen what Steve have to say really - all you do is just looking for something that you could turn around and make him look like a boozo or bad person... it is a shame.

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RE[4]: I get it
by MOS6510 on Mon 8th Oct 2012 09:13 in reply to "RE[3]: I get it"
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2011-05-12

I don't know if Steve did or didn't say that, but he did say a number of things only to change his mind later on.

At the time the were designing the iPad they thought they had the right size. Times and technology change, making it possible to make a smaller tablet that doesn't suck. Had the released a much smaller iPad in 2010 it would indeed have been "just a big iPod touch". Now they can do more pixels.

There is also some marketing involved sometimes. For example Steve said they wouldn't do a video iPod and then they did. Had Steve admitted they were going to do one the sales of the current models would have plummeted.

Apple tends to deny doing anything until they have already done it. They don't announce products before they are ready to be shipped. If they want to let the public know in advance they prefer to leak stuff to the WSJ for example.

If one reads the Steve Jobs biography you'd know he tends to say no to a lot of things until he's really convinced and his no turns in to a big yes.

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RE[4]: I get it
by TM99 on Mon 8th Oct 2012 10:35 in reply to "RE[3]: I get it"
TM99 Member since:
2012-08-26

please check: Jobs never said that!

it looks like that you are in RDF ;) and you wish that Jobs said that ;)

yours (and all Apple haters) problem is that you NEVER listen what Steve have to say really - all you do is just looking for something that you could turn around and make him look like a boozo or bad person... it is a shame.


Seriously? What an idiot most of you Apple fans have become. This is a PERFECT example of the RDF!

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57486828-37/steve-jobs-7-inch-tab...

In this article you get the exact verbatim transcript from 2010 of Jobs dissing the 7" tablets and obviously stating that Apple had no interest in apps for the 7" nor a 7" iPad as 10" was perfect according to their research and development.

So, was it a bait and switch? Maybe Cook is smart enough to realize Apple needs to look to that market as well?

Facts are facts even if you think they aren't.

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