Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 3rd Oct 2012 22:21 UTC
Windows Paul Allen, one of Microsoft's co-founders who left the company long ago, has posted on his blog about his experiences with Windows 8. He (surprise) likes it, but he does note a number of shortcomings and oddities - all of which are spot-on. However, he fails to address the core issue with Windows 8: it's forcing users to drill a small hole in the wall with a belt sander.
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RE[2]: I dunno man...
by marcus0263 on Sun 7th Oct 2012 14:48 UTC in reply to "RE: I dunno man..."
marcus0263
Member since:
2007-06-02

"For a power user, Metro is like a super fast start menu.


What a load of crap, the start menu has been instant for years. Sorry but you can't get faster than instant.

The start screen in Windows 8 is an abomination, like a combination of adware and the shortcut organization skills of a 5 year old.

In Windows 7 I can read a document and then launch the start menu without being distracted. In Windows 8 you get a UI that takes over your workspace and screams DID YOU WANT TO LAUNCH ANY OF THESE GIANT ANIMATED ICONS??? .

It's so fucking awful, please stop trying to convince us that Microsoft's piss is lemonade. Windows 8 reduces productivity because productivity is not the goal. The goal is to compete with Apple instead of serving customers. Ballmer/Sinofsky will fail at this goal and infuriate their customer base. Get ready for the wrath of Fortune 500 companies when they see what Microsoft expects them to put up with.
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Personally I'm wondering why someone didn't/hasn't stood up to Ballmer and said -

It's called W-I-N-D-O-W-S

If I wanted/needed an OS on the desktop that monopolizes the entire desktop I'd still be running MS-DOS. Metro is fine on mobile devices with small "single" monitors but is useless on the Desktop. I've tried opening my mind to it but after using it for some weeks (and yes I've even tried 3rd party hacks for a traditional desktop) it's truly a piece of kludgy miss mashed shit. Most business's will reject it (MS's bread and butter) and other than the MS fanboy's home users will reject it also, this may be what gets Ballmer shit canned. This will replace "New Coke" as one of the biggest failure's ever.

You know as much as I dislike Apple at least they have the common sense separate the Desktop interface and the Mobile interface.

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RE[3]: I dunno man...
by TM99 on Mon 8th Oct 2012 03:17 in reply to "RE[2]: I dunno man..."
TM99 Member since:
2012-08-26


It's called W-I-N-D-O-W-S

If I wanted/needed an OS on the desktop that monopolizes the entire desktop I'd still be running MS-DOS.


Could not have said it better. My experience with all the previews is the same.

You know as much as I dislike Apple at least they have the common sense separate the Desktop interface and the Mobile interface.


For now, this may be true, but the iOsification of OS X has already started. I truly expect a complete merger of the two within 2 to 3 years.

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RE[3]: I dunno man...
by zima on Tue 9th Oct 2012 00:24 in reply to "RE[2]: I dunno man..."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Personally I'm wondering why someone didn't/hasn't stood up to Ballmer and said -
It's called W-I-N-D-O-W-S

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Windows1.0.png

That's right, the product which gave the whole line its name, the first version of W-I-N-D-O-W-S, didn't have overlapping windows (well, except for that "About" dialog, it would seem) - it basically used tiling window manager concepts ...which, really, are also very close to what Metro brings! (and I could see the refined Metro 2.0 or 3.0 - the way Windows got sufficiently refined only at 3.x, and took over by storm - bringing more fully the tiling window management concepts; you'd think ~geeks would see that possibility and like it very much - after all they are often enamoured by *nix tiling WMs...)

Generally, it's extremely hard to distance oneself from biases of self-perception, when coming at personal conclusions about Metro ...actual proper testing (supposedly done in copious amounts by MS) might be really showing that Metro is quite fine - and that it might be very well generally liked.
(another example of placebo-like effects: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Mouse_vs._keyboard/index.html ...or how, contrary to quite a few loud "connoisseurs", serious research seems to suggest that touchpads are actually superior to trackpoints: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_stick#Comparison_with_touchpa... & http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=18522893 external link ...and note how the links supportive of trackpoint are "subjective opinion" in character; and I even like trackpoints, I'm used to the idea, but...)

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