Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 5th Oct 2012 10:45 UTC
Apple Beautiful video tribute and written message from Tim Cook regarding Steve Jobs, who passed away one year ago today.
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RE[2]: Comment by gan17
by mkone on Sun 7th Oct 2012 20:31 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by gan17"
mkone
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2006-03-14

Why does it bother you? That is a rather odd attitude to have to people celebrating the life of someone who was successful in his chosen field, and did a lot to push computing industry to where it is today.

The only reason this would bother you is if you have what is bordering on an irrational dislike of Steve Jobs to the point that other people praising him offends you, or rather your sense of "fairness".

Steve Jobs was more well known that Dennis Ritchie, more people knew him and what he was about. Dennis Ritchie chose a life away from the limelight, therefore he is less well known than Jobs. There is no inherent unfairness about this. It doesn't diminish his achievements the least bit.

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RE[3]: Comment by gan17
by TM99 on Mon 8th Oct 2012 04:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by gan17"
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2012-08-26

This isn't about 'fairness', this is about the glorification of the sociopath.

Americans today 'worship' the sociopaths, the narcissists, and the 'bad guys & gals'.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/07/why-dont-the-psychopaths-on-...

What men like Jobs did to the financial sector is happening in technology as well. Yes, Page & Gates also fit this psychological description, however, they are not 'popular'. Their companies do not hold the popular appeal that Apple now does. Apple has also now become another company too big to fail. If it does, it literally would impact the American economy. There may be hope with these lawsuits if Apple loses either on appeal or another patent suit. There may be hope if Cook continues to 'act' human like his recent apology about the map app. Jobs would NEVER have done that.

As part of my professional work, I deal with the effects of the human psychology on business and the effects of business on the human psychology.

So this is why I am concerned. It affects us all when men like Jobs are worshiped and men like Ritchie are forgotten. It is supremely rational to not like the unlikeable.

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RE[4]: Comment by gan17
by mkone on Tue 9th Oct 2012 01:31 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by gan17"
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2006-03-14

Still missing the point. Ritchie decided to live a life of obscurity, and therefore he is unknown. Steve Jobs was very well known, and he did cultivate a very specific public persona.

Yes, Steve Jobs was a hard task master, but one thing is obvious. No one who worked with him really said much bad about him. Not even Jon Rubinstein, or Tony Faddell.

Yes, he had a reputation for being a hard taskmaster, but Apple wasn't losing people. He wasn't a pushover, and he didn't employ pushovers either. He may have lacked social skills, but nowadays, we call that being a geek.

And comparing Steve Jobs to bankers is absurd. How many of those bankers founded their own banks, let alone two or three? How many didn't actually care for money like Steve Jobs? How many actually put their own wealth at risk as Steve Jobs did at least twice. Steve Jobs had the courage of his convictions, and wanted to shape the world in the way he saw fit. He did so, people loved his products, and he became extremely wealthy.

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RE[3]: Comment by gan17
by zima on Fri 12th Oct 2012 23:58 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by gan17"
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2005-07-06

That is a rather odd attitude to have to people celebrating the life of someone who was successful in his chosen field, and did a lot to push computing industry to where it is today.

Push where computing industry is today? Surely you must mean stifling progress by launching Patent World War?...

Or maybe the overall and quite overt goal of barring "lesser people" - vast majority of human population - from technology advancements? (Apple openly aims to target only the few most profitable % of human population; Apple also openly acts to block other manufacturers from using any supposed innovation brought by Apple; bringing those two to their logical synthesis...)

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