No proof of 'Copy-the-iPhone'-order from Samsung
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 8th Oct 2012 22:11 UTC
Legal Previously redacted documents presented in the Apple-Samsung case do not support Apple's claims that Samsung issued a 'copy-the-iPhone'-order to its designers. It's pretty damning. Apple has very selectively and actively deleted sections of internal Samsung documents and talks to make it seem as if Samsung's designers were ordered to copy the iPhone. With the unredacted, full documents without Apple's deletions in hand, a completely different picture emerges: Samsung's designers are told to be as different and creative as possible. There's no 'copy the iPhone'-order anywhere, as Apple claimed. Instead, it says this: "designers rightly must make their own designs with conviction and confidence; do not strive to do designs to please me (the president); instead make designs with faces that are creative and diverse." I guess my initial scepticism about the documents was not uncalled for. What do you know - lawyers twist and turn the truth. Shocker, huh?
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jared_wilkes
Member since:
2011-04-25

So what's being claimed by the Apple crowd is that the copycat phone was produced before the document that urged the development of the copycat phone...


No, "the anti-Apple crowd" is claiming that this document is Apple's proof that Samsung issued a command to copy (or at least this is Thom's claim -- PJ's claim is more nuanced).

The Apple crowd is claiming that this document was submitted as one piece of evidence among many other pieces of evidence contributing to a legal argument and narrative that demonstrates that Samsung did not have designs (particularly UX) that were obviously or coincidentally like the iPhone prior to 2010 and certainly not prior to the iPhone.

Edited 2012-10-09 16:51 UTC

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aldo Member since:
2010-02-17

Jared, I've read enough about the case and seen enough online comment to know that this document - the post-Galaxy S comparison to the iPhone - was seen by the Apple faithful as the smoking gun. It's the "proof" that Samsung slavishly copied Apple. Only it actually post-dates the actual copycat phone and is relevant to the development of the Galaxy S2.

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jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

This document? Have you read either of these stories? Neither is referencing the iPhone v. Galaxy comparison but rather the minutes from the design meeting in Feb. 2010.

By posting that you've read stuff, you've demonstrated that you haven't been reading.

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jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

Further proof, that your "reading" doesn't demonstrate anything but poor reading comprehension: who has said anything about whether some Apple fans on a website have said some stupid stuff or not? Thom and PJ are claiming this is claimed by Apple directly.

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