Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 9th Oct 2012 21:18 UTC
Privacy, Security, Encryption As it turns out, new Verizon customers (although there are reports existing customers are getting notified too) have 30 days to opt out of something really nasty: Verizon will sell your browsing history and location history to marketers. Apparently, AT&T does something similar. Doesn't matter what phone - iOS, Android, anything. Incredibly scummy and nasty. I quickly checked my own Dutch T-Mobile terms, and they don't seem to be doing this.
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Wow...
by Morgan on Tue 9th Oct 2012 21:59 UTC
Morgan
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2005-06-29

Imagine that...the two largest carriers in the U.S., with the most expensive contract packages by far, are willing to sell their subscribers' information to make even more money.

Not to say that Sprint and T-Mobile USA wouldn't necessarily do the same one day. I'm just glad they don't right now.

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RE: Wow...
by No it isnt on Tue 9th Oct 2012 22:04 in reply to "Wow..."
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

It's a bit funny, though, that the two largest U.S. carriers are now slightly worse re: privacy invasion than pretty much all smartphone malware out in the wild. At least with normal sandboxing, most malware won't have access to your browsing history. Carriers have (although not for wifi).

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RE: Wow...
by WorknMan on Tue 9th Oct 2012 22:14 in reply to "Wow..."
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2005-11-13

Not to say that Sprint and T-Mobile USA wouldn't necessarily do the same one day. I'm just glad they don't right now.


How do you know they don't already? Hell, I would be surprised if they didn't. Just like we share information with each other (esp copyrighted content), these companies are going to share whatever information they have about us.

The sooner that everybody understands that sharing is inevitable whether it works for us or against us, and can never be stopped, the sooner we can all learn to live with the reality that privacy no longer exists, and never will again as long as the Internet exists.

Just like piracy, the question of whether it is right or wrong for these companies to share stuff like our browsing history with each other is irrelevant. It is what it is.

Edited 2012-10-09 22:16 UTC

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RE[2]: Wow...
by Morgan on Tue 9th Oct 2012 22:18 in reply to "RE: Wow..."
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Well honestly I don't know for sure, but my Sprint agreement doesn't mention anything about selling my browsing or location data. I have to take them on faith else I won't be able to have any cellphone service if I don't wish to be tracked.

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RE[2]: Wow...
by gan17 on Tue 9th Oct 2012 22:20 in reply to "RE: Wow..."
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2008-06-03

How do you know they don't already? Hell, I would be surprised if they didn't.

Same can probably be said for any carrier in the world, I would think.

At least these two are notifying customers of the opt out option (though you have to wonder if that really does anything). Pretty sure some carriers have been doing it without informing anyone.

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RE: Wow...
by kaiwai on Wed 10th Oct 2012 04:25 in reply to "Wow..."
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Imagine that...the two largest carriers in the U.S., with the most expensive contract packages by far, are willing to sell their subscribers' information to make even more money.

Not to say that Sprint and T-Mobile USA wouldn't necessarily do the same one day. I'm just glad they don't right now.


What I find funny is the average American's addiction to worshipping business but hate the idea of having a public health care system because it would be 'too much power centralised in the hands of a few' - but it's ok for large businesses to be in that very same position.

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RE[2]: Wow...
by Morgan on Wed 10th Oct 2012 11:39 in reply to "RE: Wow..."
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

You'd be surprised at how many of us support the better health care initiative. We're not all gun-toting toothless rednecks here, despite the stereotype perpetuated by those across the pond. I happen to lean Libertarian on most things, but on this I support our president's ideals, if not necessarily his implementation.

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RE: Wow...
by JAlexoid on Wed 10th Oct 2012 14:09 in reply to "Wow..."
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

TMo US most certainly does sell that. As well as Cricket.

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