Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 9th Oct 2012 21:18 UTC
Privacy, Security, Encryption As it turns out, new Verizon customers (although there are reports existing customers are getting notified too) have 30 days to opt out of something really nasty: Verizon will sell your browsing history and location history to marketers. Apparently, AT&T does something similar. Doesn't matter what phone - iOS, Android, anything. Incredibly scummy and nasty. I quickly checked my own Dutch T-Mobile terms, and they don't seem to be doing this.
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RE: Wow...
by WorknMan on Tue 9th Oct 2012 22:14 UTC in reply to "Wow..."
WorknMan
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2005-11-13

Not to say that Sprint and T-Mobile USA wouldn't necessarily do the same one day. I'm just glad they don't right now.


How do you know they don't already? Hell, I would be surprised if they didn't. Just like we share information with each other (esp copyrighted content), these companies are going to share whatever information they have about us.

The sooner that everybody understands that sharing is inevitable whether it works for us or against us, and can never be stopped, the sooner we can all learn to live with the reality that privacy no longer exists, and never will again as long as the Internet exists.

Just like piracy, the question of whether it is right or wrong for these companies to share stuff like our browsing history with each other is irrelevant. It is what it is.

Edited 2012-10-09 22:16 UTC

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RE[2]: Wow...
by Morgan on Tue 9th Oct 2012 22:18 in reply to "RE: Wow..."
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Well honestly I don't know for sure, but my Sprint agreement doesn't mention anything about selling my browsing or location data. I have to take them on faith else I won't be able to have any cellphone service if I don't wish to be tracked.

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RE[3]: Wow...
by darknexus on Tue 9th Oct 2012 23:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Wow..."
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Well honestly I don't know for sure, but my Sprint agreement doesn't mention anything about selling my browsing or location data. I have to take them on faith else I won't be able to have any cellphone service if I don't wish to be tracked.

Correction, you won't be able to have any internet service, period. The fact is, your ISP could be selling information to marketers too. Come to that, your phone company could be selling information about the calls you make, and it doesn't matter if we're talking about a cel phone or a land line. Let's all face facts, in this interconnected world we're living in, we will never have complete privacy. If you want to keep something private, it's best not to even put it out there or, if you absolutely must send it through the internets, encrypt it. Unless you have complete and total control over everything from the origin to the destination endpoints (and you never will) your privacy doesn't exist. It never did, once telephones became widespread.

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RE[2]: Wow...
by gan17 on Tue 9th Oct 2012 22:20 in reply to "RE: Wow..."
gan17 Member since:
2008-06-03

How do you know they don't already? Hell, I would be surprised if they didn't.

Same can probably be said for any carrier in the world, I would think.

At least these two are notifying customers of the opt out option (though you have to wonder if that really does anything). Pretty sure some carriers have been doing it without informing anyone.

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RE[3]: Wow...
by WorknMan on Tue 9th Oct 2012 22:22 in reply to "RE[2]: Wow..."
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Pretty sure some carriers have been doing it without informing anyone.


My point exactly. In fact, I bet they're ALL doing it, unless they specifically have said they aren't, and even then, I still wouldn't be surprised if they're doing it anyway. Me? I have an ad blocker on my phone, so they're welcome to collect all the info they want ;)

Edited 2012-10-09 22:24 UTC

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