Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 9th Oct 2012 22:01 UTC
Microsoft Steve Ballmer's annual letter to shareholders makes it very clear Microsoft is at a point of no return - and in the middle of a transition into a hardware company. "This is a significant shift, both in what we do and how we see ourselves - as a devices and services company. It impacts how we run the company, how we develop new experiences, and how we take products to market for both consumers and businesses." Line. Sand.
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RE[5]: In plain English
by kwan_e on Wed 10th Oct 2012 06:36 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: In plain English"
kwan_e
Member since:
2007-02-18

Now if we're going to play semantics as to whether something is all hardware or all software then that is a circle jerk that could go on for many hours with nothing gained at the end of it all.


I'm not the one playing semantics. I get replies from one side that they're still a hardware company. I get you telling me they're a software company.

You're simply all wrong.

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RE[6]: In plain English
by kaiwai on Wed 10th Oct 2012 09:22 in reply to "RE[5]: In plain English"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm not the one playing semantics. I get replies from one side that they're still a hardware company. I get you telling me they're a software company.

You're simply all wrong.


No, neither of us are wrong because these are opinions - now get down out of your ivory tower and accept that you're in the same boat as the rest of us.

Edited 2012-10-10 09:40 UTC

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RE[7]: In plain English
by kwan_e on Wed 10th Oct 2012 09:31 in reply to "RE[6]: In plain English"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

No, neither of us are wrong because these are opinions - now get down out of your ivory tower and accept that you're in the same boat as the rest of us.


Some opinions are more wrong than others. I argue that your view that Apple is a software company and the other view that Apple is still a hardware company are both wrong based on the facts.

It's as though they are arguing that China is still a communist country because the ruling party has "Communist" in their name and their stated ideology, while you are arguing that China is a capitalist simply because they have a ruthless compete at all costs approach to world economics.

Both types of views simply are wrong based on the facts.

Like Communist China, Apple* is neither one thing or another, but is something transitioning into another.

Maybe you should stop hiding in my ivory tower's "all opinions have equal validity" broom closet.

* That's right, all you Apple fanboys out there.

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RE[7]: In plain English
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 10th Oct 2012 14:19 in reply to "RE[6]: In plain English"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

So what? Apple could be a Musical Vibrating Electronic Dildo manufacturer for all I care, and they could have a band composing and recording new music to sell with next year's model iDildo. So, Apple is not a 100% software and they are not 100% hardware either. I'm pretty sure Burger King's got some janitor-type jobs, but that doesn't change them from being a fast food restaurant with the primary goal being serving (relatively shitty) food.

Edited 2012-10-10 14:35 UTC

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