Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 11th Oct 2012 14:43 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Since I love making it seem as if The Netherlands is in any way relevant anywhere ever, here's the most recent market share figures for smartphones, released today, covering the month of August (there's a graph showing the figures for every month from August 2011 until August 2012). The iPhone has a market share of almost 20% - but Android is ravaging the market, and now holds a market share of 70% (!). Nearly 75% of all Android smartphones sold in The Netherlands are made by Samsung. If you take the entire phone market - including feature phones - the iPhone holds 13% (up from 8% in August 2011) and Android 47% (up from 30% in August 2011). Windows Phone barely manages to hold on at 1%, and the BlackBerry dropped from 13% to 5%. Interestingly enough, in this combined feature/smartphone market, nearly 50% are Samsung phones. This of course doesn't yet include the iPhone 5, so the next set of figures will most likely show a spike for Apple. Still, if The Netherlands is in any way indicative of the rest of Europe, it's no surprise Apple tends to focus on US figures during its presentations.
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RE: Comment by MOS6510
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 11th Oct 2012 15:20 UTC in reply to "Comment by MOS6510"
Thom_Holwerda
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2005-06-29

Goes to show that what you see rarely matches up with reality. I'd think iPhones were more popular too, judging by what I see. i'm guessing people just whip 'm out more often.

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by smashIt on Thu 11th Oct 2012 15:27 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
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2005-07-06

i'm guessing people just whip 'm out more often.


next time you visit a starbucks just take a look around

everyone keeps his phone in his pocket while drinking a coffee
but the apple-guys place it on the table

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RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510
by przemo_li on Thu 11th Oct 2012 15:51 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510"
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2010-06-01

LMAO

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RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510
by Brunis on Fri 12th Oct 2012 09:49 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510"
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2005-11-01

"i'm guessing people just whip 'm out more often.


next time you visit a starbucks just take a look around

everyone keeps his phone in his pocket while drinking a coffee
but the apple-guys place it on the table
"

I agree, most Apple users are attention whores. They buy the product they think looks cool, so they can flaunt it and pretend they are aswell ;)

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RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510
by MOS6510 on Thu 11th Oct 2012 15:28 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
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2011-05-12

i'm guessing people just whip 'm out more often.


As an actress said to a bishop.

I'm mostly surprised kids love BlackBerries. Well, I know it's for the BBM, but apart from that there isn't much fun stuff you can do with a BlackBerry.

Work related I see most people either getting rid or wanting to get rid of their BlackBerries.

They aren't that bad, but the app selection is small and the quality is mostly poor.

Regarding the spotting of iPhones I guess iPhone users wanted an iPhone and do things with it, Android users mostly just got a new phone for a nice price and it needed to have a web browser. They're not doing much with it. This would also explain why iOS devices cause so much more web traffic, they are used more.

We now have 5 people at work with an Android, only one is a power user and one also has an iPhone which he prefers. The other three are "dumb" users who were forced to get a smart phone.

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by JAlexoid on Thu 11th Oct 2012 15:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510"
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2009-05-19

Forced?!?!?! Did someone threaten them or their family?

Also, since you seem to be an Apple fanboy you see what you want to see. I see a lot of iPhones for sure, but also a lot of SGS2 and SGS3. Noticing a WP device is like a novelty...

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RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510
by Radio on Thu 11th Oct 2012 16:23 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510"
Radio Member since:
2009-06-20

I'm mostly surprised kids love BlackBerries. Well, I know it's for the BBM, but apart from that there isn't much fun stuff you can do with a BlackBerry.

It's the keyboard.
I have a friend with a crappy, low-sales Samsung (so no CyanogenMod or other 3rd party support) with a keyboard, and she clings to it with fiery passion (as an actress etc.).

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RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510
by unclefester on Thu 11th Oct 2012 23:41 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510"
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2007-01-13


I'm mostly surprised kids love BlackBerries. Well, I know it's for the BBM, but apart from that there isn't much fun stuff you can do with a BlackBerry.


A Blackberry is probably the best device out there for texting and emails. That's mainly what kids do.

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by Lennie on Thu 11th Oct 2012 15:35 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
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2007-09-22

Is it just me or are you confusing 2 things ?

- sales numbers
- marketshare

Sales just says what is currently being sold the most, it doesn't say anything about what people actually already have/use.

So if you see a lot of people with iPhones (if what you see is a good representation at all) that just means a lot of iPhones were sold in the past.

It could still mean Apple isn't selling as many right now (obviously the latest phone from Apple probably has an impact on that too).

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by chithanh on Thu 11th Oct 2012 18:25 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510"
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2006-06-18

Is it just me or are you confusing 2 things ?

- sales numbers
- marketshare

Marketshare is a very ambiguous term. It can mean sales, or web site visits, or app downloads or whatever.

What you call marketshare would more precisely be described as "installed base".

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by spiderman on Thu 11th Oct 2012 15:53 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
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2008-10-23

Aside the already mentioned fact that the userbase and the units currently sold are different things, don't forget that statistics don't reflect reality either. First off, even when the statistics are honest, it's hard to get a meaningful sample and get the right data. Second, the statistics is not provided for free by a benevolent NGO, it's produced and published for money by a corporation with an agenda.

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by kwan_e on Thu 11th Oct 2012 16:05 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
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2007-02-18

I'd think iPhones were more popular too, judging by what I see. i'm guessing people just whip 'm out more often.


There's definitely a beneficial side-effect in having a touchscreen based gadget. You have to take it out every time you need to do something, and voila, instant advertising.

I personally prefer Cowon players, for example, because I can control it without taking it out. And thus, nobody knows I use a Cowon, and assume it's an iPod.

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RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510
by No it isnt on Thu 11th Oct 2012 18:37 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
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2005-11-14

Also keep in mind that this is for August, just a couple of months before the iPhone 5 enters the market and the price is dumped for the other phones. Apple's stuff is highly seasonal, to a point where fanbois claimed Apple had caught up with Android the months following the launch of the 4S.

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by Tony Swash on Fri 12th Oct 2012 16:31 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
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2009-08-22

I wonder if this relates to a strange phenomena reported many times and from many sources which is that iOS users actually use their phones for platform functions (web, email, photography, social networking etc) far more than Android users. For example Chikita has just conducted a user agent analysis on millions of mobile ad impressions, spanning a 7-day time frame from October 3rd through October 9th, 2012. Looking solely at impressions coming from the iPhone 5 and Galaxy S III, they were able to observe the difference in Web traffic volume between the two devices, 18 days since the public release of the iPhone 5 and four months after the SIII release in the US. The newest Apple device has already overtaken the Galaxy S III in terms of Web traffic volume.

http://insights.chitika.com/2012/iphone-5-galaxy-s-iii-study/

This report is matched by many others all pointing to the same conclusion, people are doing much less stuff with their Android phones than with their iPhones.

I don't why this is happening but the scale of the mismatch between market share and usage is so large and so well confirmed through research that it cries out for explanation.

My favoured explanation will probably not sit well with some people. I think most people don't buy their Android phones because they are looking for the best smart phone platform. They buy them because that is what is being punted by the carriers or retailers, and because the want a modern looking phone with a touch screen but they don't really want to use them for much more than phoning and texting. But I could be wrong because there is little data about what drives actual usage patterns on the two platforms.

I would love to hear any other ideas people have as to why Android users just don't seem to use so many platform functions as much. It's certainly a bit puzzling.

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RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 12th Oct 2012 17:01 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510"
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2005-06-29

In The Netherlands, where the iPhone holds 20% and Android 70%, this is not the case.

http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_browser-NL-monthly-201208-201209

They're not clear about whether or not the iPad is a mobile device - but I'm guessing it is, which would explain the - still - relatively high iOS share.

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by lordmorgul on Fri 12th Oct 2012 23:02 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510"
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2008-07-07

There's one problem with this: not all Android browsers show the device name in the UA-string (Opera & Firefox don't, for example), so the data for SGS3 might be understated.

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