Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 9th Oct 2012 21:18 UTC
Privacy, Security, Encryption As it turns out, new Verizon customers (although there are reports existing customers are getting notified too) have 30 days to opt out of something really nasty: Verizon will sell your browsing history and location history to marketers. Apparently, AT&T does something similar. Doesn't matter what phone - iOS, Android, anything. Incredibly scummy and nasty. I quickly checked my own Dutch T-Mobile terms, and they don't seem to be doing this.
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RE[12]: Wow...
by Laurence on Thu 11th Oct 2012 16:40 UTC in reply to "RE[11]: Wow..."
Laurence
Member since:
2007-03-26


So he has ads on his website, do you criticise every project that makes money from web ads?

If they're tricking users on to their site, then yes.


Of course chrome's default behaviour can be overridden, but there's still nothing scam-like about releasing a browser where the defaults are set to send less information to google.

There is if you're tricking people into thinking your browser is more than it is.


I'm just not clear on if your opposition is *really* to the browser itself

I don't really know how many different ways I can emphasis this, but I'll try one last time:

Iron does /NOTHING/ to make Chrome more secure, period. It only exists to raise their own profile. Much like any dishonest FUD campaign.

A scam is defined as: A dishonest scheme; a fraud.
That perfectly sums this scheme up.


If you think he shouldn't be entitled to any ad revenue at all, well...Haha, I don't have the answers Laurence, but gosh that's mean.

I don't think any scam is entitled to ad revenue.

Edited 2012-10-11 16:44 UTC

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RE[13]: Wow...
by Alfman on Thu 11th Oct 2012 17:29 in reply to "RE[12]: Wow..."
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Laurence,

"If they're tricking users on to their site, then yes."

"There is if you're tricking people into thinking your browser is more than it is."

What misleading facts are on the comparison page I linked? They literally say "Depending on the configuration...". It might be nice if they went further and instructed how to change the default chrome configurations, but this argument that they're tricking users is really being stretched thin in my opinion.


"I don't really know how many different ways I can emphasis this, but I'll try one last time: Iron does /NOTHING/ to make Chrome more secure, period."

But does iron claim to be more secure? It only claims to be more private by default, which is factually true. As you said, chrome's privacy settings can be configured to match Iron, but as I said, sometimes it's more practical to have an executable where the defaults are set to maximum privacy.


"A scam is defined as: A dishonest scheme; a fraud.
That perfectly sums this scheme up."

I think there's some underlying conflict that you are not letting on, but truth be told I'm happy you are bashing Iron instead of bashing *me* ;) Have a virtual beer on me: [_])

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RE[14]: Wow...
by Laurence on Thu 11th Oct 2012 20:40 in reply to "RE[13]: Wow..."
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26


What misleading facts are on the comparison page I linked? They literally say "Depending on the configuration...". It might be nice if they went further and instructed how to change the default chrome configurations, but this argument that they're tricking users is really being stretched thin in my opinion.

They must have changed their site then (presumably due to the criticisms raised).


But does iron claim to be more secure? It only claims to be more private by default

It used to make a lot bolder claims. Which is how it's name got spread (after all, most people wouldn't bother otherwise)


I think there's some underlying conflict that you are not letting on, but truth be told I'm happy you are bashing Iron instead of bashing *me* ;) Have a virtual beer on me: [_])

hehe thanks for the beer, I was actually quite parched. Cheers [_])

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