Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th Oct 2012 23:06 UTC
Internet & Networking "With the fate of our beloved internet economy allegedly at stake, perhaps it's a good time to examine what Do Not Track is. How did the standard came to be, what does it do, and how does it stand to change online advertising? Is it as innocuous as privacy advocates make it sound, or does it stand to jeopardize the free, ad-supported internet we've all come to rely on?" Do Not Track is inherently flawed because it gives people a false sense of security. Other than perhaps well-known and accountable sites, nobody's going to abide by it anyway. We don't need nonsense like DNT - we need to educate people about that 'private browsing' button. Everybody's already using it for porn anyway; shouldn't be hard to let people know what other things it can be used for.
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Do not call?!?
by Alfman on Sat 13th Oct 2012 03:06 UTC
Alfman
Member since:
2011-01-28

"Back in 2007, a coalition of activists, academics, and lawyers approached the FTC to create an online equivalent of the successful nationwide Do Not Call list — a single list of opt-outs that all telemarketers had to respect."

I actually really *like* the idea of the do not call list, but it only stops telemarketers who actually choose to abide by it. I get these damned automated calls for "home security" at least every week, sometimes several times a day. The voice says "There's been a crime in your neighbourhood...".

I've been reporting these violations nearly every day for a year, they rotate between a handful of numbers, and I'm far from the only one who has these problems with these very same guys. You'd think they'd get a clue that I'm never going to buy anything from them...argh!

http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/4065305038/14
http://www.numberguru.com/406-852-8003
http://callerr.com/4068528003
http://whocalled.us/lookup/4068528003
http://www.numberinvestigator.com/phone/406-852-8003.html

I pay for received calls, they come at all times of the day, sometimes when I'm sleeping or driving or on vacation. They are costing me time and money. At the very absolute least the FEDs should shut down this phone number, but no..the spammer's been using the same numbers without interruption since at least 2010. What have all of our DNC complaints yielded us? Zilch! The do-not-call list is self-enforced and toothless. I keep hoping if I file enough complaint's it'll finally end.


Sorry about this rant, but when I read "successful nationwide Do Not Call list", I just needed to point out the author's naivety - it only stops companies who respect it voluntarily.

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RE: Do not call?!?
by Soulbender on Sat 13th Oct 2012 06:48 in reply to "Do not call?!?"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

I pay for received calls


Say what?
That's as absurd as having to pay for the letters people send you.

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RE[2]: Do not call?!?
by Alfman on Sat 13th Oct 2012 08:38 in reply to "RE: Do not call?!?"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Soulbender,

"That's as absurd as having to pay for the letters people send you."

This always surprises people in europe, but yeah that's the way it is in the US especially with mobile phones.

If you have a PAYG plan, you pay for incoming calls outright. If you have minutes on your plan, then those are total minutes which will deduct incoming calls before applying overage charges. I think our overage charge is around $0.40/minute, which I presume is rounded up. Different plans have different times when the minutes can apply.

On a related note, I don't have/don't want a texting plan, but I still get some occasional spam texts & some from friends. I make a point of never reading them because I'd rather they call. Anyway those get billed at $0.20 a piece.

You get used to it.

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RE[2]: Do not call?!?
by kwan_e on Sat 13th Oct 2012 13:02 in reply to "RE: Do not call?!?"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

"I pay for received calls


Say what?
That's as absurd as having to pay for the letters people send you.
"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWpwEOKzasw

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