Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 16th Oct 2012 12:14 UTC
Windows After yesterday's TV advertisement, Microsoft finally unveiled the pricing for its Surface tablet - the ARM Windows RT version that is. The cheapest Surface - 32GB without touch cover - will set you back $499. They're aiming straight for iPad pricing here, ignoring the popular cheaper Android offerings. Update: only available in Australia, Canada, China, France, Germany, Hong Kong, the United Kingdom and the United States. As usual.
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Drop it to $300-400 and we'll talk.
by Alfman on Tue 16th Oct 2012 15:03 UTC
Alfman
Member since:
2011-01-28

No not me, I'm not going to be buying into any locked platform which I cannot freely control & develop for. And for the sake of free & open computing now and in the future, I hope there's enough of us boycotting these restrictive platforms to make a difference. Otherwise, future generations can say goodbye to things like independent software, homebrew development, dual-booting, and distribution outside the grip of corporate app stores.

I've heard too many people defending walled garden platforms by pointing to jailbroken devices. That's an incredibly naive justification people use to distance themselves from the fact that they're actually supporting these closed platforms.

I don't give a crap whether it's microsoft or apple or anyone else trying to pull this nonsense; it's a bad future for consumer computing. We need to stand up against corporate control over the devices that we supposedly "own". We need to educate people about what is at stake, since too often they just are not aware. Consumers who spend good money on closed platforms are not only investing in technology designed to eliminate end-user choice & control, they're also investing in technology that, if overwhelmingly successful, stands to displace unrestricted & open hardware. Before long indy developers will have to accept that corporate kickbacks for walled gardens and oversight are a new cost of doing business with consumers. Developers who don't like it will have to relegate themselves to open platforms which fewer and fewer consumers will have access to.

Before anyone accuses me of exaggerating here, open your eyes, if enough consumers buy these devices, this is where consumer computing is headed. My projection is that sane businesses are not going to accept these close devices for themselves because they can see right away that walled gardens are a raw deal. But consumers are another story. Consumers will buy into closed hardware without even knowing that it's closed, and without even realising that a corporation intends to monopolise access to them in a power play to control and tax 3rd party development.

Edit: MS requires every Windows 8 ARM tablet to be locked down in hardware. If you're not ok with a corporation telling you how you should be allowed to use your own devices, then don't be a hypocrite, encourage people not to buy into these closed platforms.

Edited 2012-10-16 15:10 UTC

Reply Score: 8

Pro-Competition Member since:
2007-08-20

I could not agree more!

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

No not me, I'm not going to be buying into any locked platform which I cannot freely control & develop for.


So you aren't going to be developing anything because no one person controls any platform.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Edit: MS requires every Windows 8 ARM tablet to be locked down in hardware. If you're not ok with a corporation telling you how you should be allowed to use your own devices, then don't be a hypocrite, encourage people not to buy into these closed platforms.


It is an integrated consumer product. The argument you guys make is like saying a washing machine, a car's internal computer, digital watch or television shouldn't tied to a product.

Some of these devices have computing power now that were thousands of times better than what we had in the 80s and 90s.

The argument is ridiculous and stupid. A not point is "developer or poweruser" hardware going to go away for the same reason the mainframe and servers haven't dissapeared. It just turning into more of a niche product and the market will decide.

Also unlike Apple's App shop, Microsoft lets you decide the pricing model.

What we are seeing is the industry growing up.

Edited 2012-10-16 21:08 UTC

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Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

lucas_maximus,

"It is an integrated consumer product. The argument you guys make is like saying a washing machine, a car's internal computer, digital watch or television shouldn't tied to a product."

Right, because there's no difference between sideloading apps on our tablet PC versus sideloading our car or washing machine.

* For those who are sarcasm impaired, note heavy use of sarcasm here.

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tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

I don't give a crap whether it's microsoft or apple or anyone else trying to pull this nonsense; it's a bad future for consumer computing. We need to stand up against corporate control over the devices that we supposedly "own".


Good luck with that.

Reply Parent Score: 3