Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 16th Oct 2012 12:14 UTC
Windows After yesterday's TV advertisement, Microsoft finally unveiled the pricing for its Surface tablet - the ARM Windows RT version that is. The cheapest Surface - 32GB without touch cover - will set you back $499. They're aiming straight for iPad pricing here, ignoring the popular cheaper Android offerings. Update: only available in Australia, Canada, China, France, Germany, Hong Kong, the United Kingdom and the United States. As usual.
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WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

Citation needed*

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-037-OP

(note the no OS option, and you save £91) ... Check your facts please.


Truth be told, no Average Joe is aware of Overclockers. And atleast here in Finland even I can't come up with a single vendor providing systems without Windows pre-installed unless you go for Apple, and then you get OSX instead.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I appreciate your point and it was a somewhat trite example.

I was replying to the notion that these things don't exist ... and if you really cared that much you would maybe do a bit of research before claiming the opposite was true. I literally googled that off the top of my head ... there was no big effort to find the no OS option. I appreciate it maybe different in different countries.

My argument is that people who wish to control the platform they use as much as people on here do, They are a niche and we should expect to be treated as a niche market by the larger players.

You don't have fixed gear bicycle riders complaining about their Japanese NJS components (very fashionable) are expensive ... because they understand that they aren't what the mass market is geared towards.

Edited 2012-10-17 21:13 UTC

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

atleast here in Finland even I can't come up with a single vendor providing systems without Windows pre-installed unless you go for Apple, and then you get OSX instead.

Well, I go to ceneo.pl (possibly the most popular and well-known here catalogue of products and online shops), to "laptops" category (noting that a laptop without an OS is the most popular one), pick "no OS" and "Linux" options, and...
http://www.ceneo.pl/Laptopy;017P8-250094-250095.htm
...get over 400 products. Similar for netbooks or desktops (just picked the example of laptops since they're most popular now, and typically the subject of local conspiracy theories from ~Linux-faithful - before the see the above search on ceneo)

Now, you're seriously telling us that Finland didn't come up with such web service? That it lags in anything-high-tech behind... Poland?

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Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

zima,

"Well, I go to ceneo.pl (possibly the most popular and well-known here catalogue of products and online shops), to 'laptops' category (noting that a laptop without an OS is the most popular one), pick 'no OS' and 'Linux' options, and..."

I visited the link to verify your claim, but I cannot read it ;) so I'll take you at your word. If it is the case that no-os is the most popular option there, it makes me wonder how many people are not getting what they really want when there isn't a no-os choice.

Heck, not even talking in terms of alternate OS, some people might routinely be overwriting a bundled copy of windows home with a standalone copy of windows professional, because no-os isn't a choice. I'm sure a good chunk of windows sales go to customers who'd rather buy windows licenses separately and reuse it if no-OS systems were easier to buy. I'm really curious as to how often bundled windows licenses are oversold like this.

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