Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 18th Oct 2012 10:56 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Things ain't going well for Nokia. Their quarterly results are - again - a disaster, and Lumia sales have dropped 28% (50% if you look at just the US). Windows Phone 8 is really going to be a make-it-or-break-it kind of thing. If it doesn't go well, the company might consider going back to focussing on rubber boots.
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RE: Comment by Loreia
by dsmogor on Thu 18th Oct 2012 12:22 UTC in reply to "Comment by Loreia"
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That's the point, even if Win8 is moderately successful, grabbing, say 10% of the premium market in next 3 years, it's too little, too late for organization like Nokia.
WP8 has nothing for their bread and butter markets in emerging economies, and number economically struggling European countries.

WP7 is barely competitive to Android on middle end,
S40 while possibly holding out a little bit longer will eventually be abandoned by developers leaving JavaME.

Elop has basically deceased Nokia native software development organization so I wouldn't expect any news on that front. Still it didn't really help the bottom line.
Unless miracle happens (people instantly get as crazy about WP8 as they were about the IPhone) Nokia goes under.

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RE[2]: Comment by Loreia
by MOS6510 on Thu 18th Oct 2012 12:42 in reply to "RE: Comment by Loreia"
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Maybe they should also sell Android phones.

It's true it's not easy to be different with Android, but Nokia was a very strong phone brand. When in doubt what to buy and all things being equal the name "Nokia" should have made people chose it.

They could have been where Samsung is.

Why not sell S40 until it stops making money while producing Android and WP phones.

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RE[3]: Comment by Loreia
by cdude on Fri 19th Oct 2012 06:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Loreia"
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Its far easier, and even possible at all, to be different with Android then with WP8. With WP8 you are even doomed at the hardware-level to follow Microsofts ruleset. Let alone the WP software where you not even have access to the code.

The Nokia brand is serious damaged at carrier, developer and partner level. Even at customers level what is why Nokia lost so much of there before loyal customer base. The markets where they are still strong are those where Lumia is not sold and where Symbian and S40 still rule the landscape. But since both are "burning" and since Nokia not cares at all about this markets (Meltimi canceled, Elops Nokia turn around from a global company to a one focused on north america, the Lumia only and everything else burned no-plan-B strategy) they are doomed to lose that too over time. Android, Bada and the likes are taking over low end too.

When that happened and S40 is phased out like the remaing Symbian and N9 sells then Nokia is down to a <2% market share company. To survive that they need to drastical shrink. Fire 6 out of 7 employees. This is going to happen soon. Prepare for way more Nokia mass-layoffs next days. Remaining talent gone, trust gone. The Lumia company may end in a garage with Elop doing the support, development, research and hardware himself.

Edited 2012-10-19 06:22 UTC

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