Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 18th Oct 2012 18:15 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Ubuntu 12.10 has been released, sporting the rather... Interesting tagline 'Avoid the pain of Windows 8'. Two main features are that websites can now be treated as actual applications, integrating them into Unity. The divide between local and online content when searching has also been softened, which, they claim, makes it easier to find what you're looking for. On the server side, it includes the Folsom release of OpenStack, "Cinder, for block storage and Quantum, a virtual networking API. Ubuntu's Metal-as-a-Service bare-metal provisioning tool has been updated and now supports Calxeda hyperscale hardware based on ARM".
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by leech on Thu 18th Oct 2012 19:11 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
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"The wireless won't work


Aww, you beat me to it. ;) I was going to say sure, avoid the pain of Windows 8 and experience a whole new level of pain you will never forget. Although, truth be told, Wi-Fi isn't really the main problem with Linux these days. Audio and video, as well as external device connectivity (scanners, etc) are where the real pains are. If your device works, great. If it doesn't work, you're fcuked.

Yeah, but then again the same can be said for Windows XP and Vista these days. Windows drops support for hardware far quicker than Linux does. The problem is if Linux doesn't have support from the hardware manufacturer at all and no Linux developers have the device to engineer drivers themselves.

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by darknexus on Thu 18th Oct 2012 19:22 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
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Windows drops support for hardware far quicker than Linux does.

Which is absolutely irrelevant if the hardware doesn't work in Linux to begin with, isn't it?

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by lucas_maximus on Thu 18th Oct 2012 19:23 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
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What a load of rubbish. Hardware vendors don't release a driver for for new hardware on operating systems that are being phased out or EOL.

Windows doesn't drop any hardware support, My brother has an ATi Rage 128 running on his desktop with Windows 7, works fine.

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by Dave_K on Fri 19th Oct 2012 13:31 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
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Yeah, but then again the same can be said for Windows XP and Vista these days.

That's not my experience. I find that getting older devices to work on newer versions of Windows is generally more problematic than getting new hardware running on XP/Vista. Even the latest cutting edge gadgets still almost always include drivers for XP.

Windows drops support for hardware far quicker than Linux does.

Probably true, although it can be inconsistent, with things that work in one distribution not working in another. The main issue I find is that graphical configuration tools aren't updated. I used to be able to control a lot of my Thinkpad's features from the GUI, but those tools don't work in newer distributions and now they only be tweaked from config files.

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by Morgan on Sun 21st Oct 2012 22:32 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
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How exactly does Windows XP "drop support" for hardware? Does Microsoft send out an automatic update that kills the driver whenever they feel a certain group of people shouldn't be using a particular device anymore? Sorry but I call BS on that one.

It's not that XP drops hardware support at all; rather the hardware manufacturers choose a point in time where they don't want to offer XP support for their next generation device, and therefore you never had support in the first place. Nothing dropped, just moving forward.

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