Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 18th Oct 2012 18:15 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Ubuntu 12.10 has been released, sporting the rather... Interesting tagline 'Avoid the pain of Windows 8'. Two main features are that websites can now be treated as actual applications, integrating them into Unity. The divide between local and online content when searching has also been softened, which, they claim, makes it easier to find what you're looking for. On the server side, it includes the Folsom release of OpenStack, "Cinder, for block storage and Quantum, a virtual networking API. Ubuntu's Metal-as-a-Service bare-metal provisioning tool has been updated and now supports Calxeda hyperscale hardware based on ARM".
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RE[6]: ...
by WereCatf on Fri 19th Oct 2012 13:46 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: ..."
WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

... none of which are available for Windows, as far as I know.

To get the equivalent power and functionality on a Windows box, one would have to spend more on software than one had spent on the hardware alone.


You're cherry-picking applications that are Linux-only, even when you perfectly well know that there are completely free alternatives also for Windows. There is no reason why you'd have to buy expensive commercial apps for these simply because you run Windows.

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by lemur2 on Fri 19th Oct 2012 13:58 in reply to "RE[6]: ..."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"... none of which are available for Windows, as far as I know.

To get the equivalent power and functionality on a Windows box, one would have to spend more on software than one had spent on the hardware alone.


You're cherry-picking applications that are Linux-only, even when you perfectly well know that there are completely free alternatives also for Windows. There is no reason why you'd have to buy expensive commercial apps for these simply because you run Windows.
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... unless you want to get anywhere near the capability that I have installed on my Linux desktop, for no cost.

I repeat, to get for Windows the equivalent power, functionality, and quality of desktop applications that I routinely install on my KDE4 desktop, avoiding trialware, adware, crapware, shovelware, shareware, bloat and all kinds of other dubious-ware that pervades the Windows world, one has to spend at least twice as much on a Windows desktop compared to a Linux desktop with the exact same hardware.

No joke. For real. I kid you not.

Then of course when it comes to your time and effort (have you ever waited through over an hour, and no less than four reboots, for Windows to get through an update? I have) ... one simply can't get consumer Windows that comes anywhere close to the excellent KDE4 Linux desktop experience.

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by Dave_K on Fri 19th Oct 2012 14:34 in reply to "RE[7]: ..."
Dave_K Member since:
2005-11-16

Then of course when it comes to your time and effort (have you ever waited through over an hour, and no less than four reboots, for Windows to get through an update? I have)


Four reboots? Windows updates can be annoying, but I don't think I've ever seen that many...

The two worst upgrade experiences I've ever had were with Linux. In both cases I was dumped to the CLI after updating because something had broken X.

Most non-rolling distributions recommend a clean install when there's a new version, and there are often lots of problems if you don't. Reinstalling an OS completely is a more time consuming process than installing a service pack, even if that means rebooting a few times.

I have to laugh at the idea that Linux would save me time and effort. I probably spend 90% of my time using Windows, but easily 90% of the time I've had to spend solving problems has been down to Linux issues. To me the idea that Linux is as easy to use as Windows is a total fantasy.

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by WereCatf on Fri 19th Oct 2012 14:56 in reply to "RE[7]: ..."
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

You're just trying to insinuate that F/OSS - applications that run only on Linux are better than ones that run also on Windows, which is actually rather insulting towards the whole F/OSS - movement. There's PLENTY of completely free, open-source software for Windows, too, but you just keep on jabbering that if one's running Windows one has to buy closed-source ones because the free ones aren't up to the snuff unless they run on Linux.

Do you even realize how much of a hypocrite that makes you? Your behaviour is exactly the kind of behaviour that's frowned upon everywhere and you don't even realize it yourself.

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by ilovebeer on Fri 19th Oct 2012 19:39 in reply to "RE[7]: ..."
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

I repeat, to get for Windows the equivalent power, functionality, and quality of desktop applications that I routinely install on my KDE4 desktop, avoiding trialware, adware, crapware, shovelware, shareware, bloat and all kinds of other dubious-ware that pervades the Windows world, one has to spend at least twice as much on a Windows desktop compared to a Linux desktop with the exact same hardware.

No joke. For real. I kid you not.

Then of course when it comes to your time and effort (have you ever waited through over an hour, and no less than four reboots, for Windows to get through an update? I have) ... one simply can't get consumer Windows that comes anywhere close to the excellent KDE4 Linux desktop experience.

Pretty much everything quoted is absurd & completely backwards. It's blatantly obvious you're either incredibly ill-informed or just trying to push buttons because nothing you've said has any merit or credibility what-so-ever.

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