Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 19th Oct 2012 13:56 UTC
Apple "Looking at the stats for all our apps (we have 4 universal apps with almost 3 million downloads) and for all versions after a month gives an interesting picture." Close to 70% is on iOS 6 already. In the meantime, Sony just announced it's going to leave loads of users in the cold by not upgrading their phones to Jelly Bean. Those that do have an update in the pipeline will have to wait until next year.
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RE[2]: Interesting but...
by gpsnoopy on Fri 19th Oct 2012 15:28 UTC in reply to "RE: Interesting but..."
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The link within the article states that they only consider the new version of Discovr Music. See 2nd paragraph of

For the Google numbers: "[...] based on the number of Android devices that have accessed Google Play within a 14-day period ending on the data collection date noted below." (

Note that the phone periodically connects to Google Play for updates by default. No user interaction is needed, except that the phone has to be turned on.

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RE[3]: Interesting but...
by jared_wilkes on Fri 19th Oct 2012 15:40 in reply to "RE[2]: Interesting but..."
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No, that post says that while he was looking at data for one of his app's updates, he was taken by the rate of adoption of iOS. For the subset of those updating the one app, the adoption rate for iOS is 77%. It never states that the data in the post Thom links is only the subset of those updating the 1 app; it states the opposite. The link provided by Thom specifically states the data is across all versions of all 4 of their apps. And here we see that the adoption rate across all 4 apps and all versions is, as expected, lower but comparably high (55%-70%).

I know how Google measures OS update releases. I'm stating that its a poor measure -- Apple doesn't have to indirectly record other OEM's devices through a store. And I'm also stating that the disparity is so huge that handwaving about different methods of arriving at the results is absurd. There is no data collection method that is ever going to show Android uptake remotely close to iOS uptake.

Edited 2012-10-19 15:57 UTC

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RE[4]: Interesting but...
by gpsnoopy on Fri 19th Oct 2012 15:59 in reply to "RE[3]: Interesting but..."
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I missed the first graph picture due to an office filter. But I found it funny that it proves my point that the sampling is biased.

The second paragraph that I pointed out earlier, gives 77% iOS6 on the 10 October as it's only considering the latest version of Discovr Music. While the graph in the new post states ~60% on the same date as it consider a larger sample (four apps and several versions). That's a pretty large difference. And the larger sample is still heavily biased as it's related to one vendor with its user base, and not randomly sampled across every iPhone/iPad owner.

I don't understand why you think that the Google method is so flawed. All Android devices apart from the Kindle regularly connects to Google Play for automatic updates.

How is considering only 4 apps from one vendor in the App Store better?

iOS 6 adoption rate might be great, but I still long for Apple to publish results, and if possible on a larger less biased sample. For the moment, only Google does.

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