Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 19th Oct 2012 13:56 UTC
Apple "Looking at the stats for all our apps (we have 4 universal apps with almost 3 million downloads) and for all versions after a month gives an interesting picture." Close to 70% is on iOS 6 already. In the meantime, Sony just announced it's going to leave loads of users in the cold by not upgrading their phones to Jelly Bean. Those that do have an update in the pipeline will have to wait until next year.
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RE[3]: Interesting but...
by jared_wilkes on Fri 19th Oct 2012 15:40 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Interesting but..."
jared_wilkes
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2011-04-25

No, that post says that while he was looking at data for one of his app's updates, he was taken by the rate of adoption of iOS. For the subset of those updating the one app, the adoption rate for iOS is 77%. It never states that the data in the post Thom links is only the subset of those updating the 1 app; it states the opposite. The link provided by Thom specifically states the data is across all versions of all 4 of their apps. And here we see that the adoption rate across all 4 apps and all versions is, as expected, lower but comparably high (55%-70%).

I know how Google measures OS update releases. I'm stating that its a poor measure -- Apple doesn't have to indirectly record other OEM's devices through a store. And I'm also stating that the disparity is so huge that handwaving about different methods of arriving at the results is absurd. There is no data collection method that is ever going to show Android uptake remotely close to iOS uptake.

Edited 2012-10-19 15:57 UTC

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RE[4]: Interesting but...
by gpsnoopy on Fri 19th Oct 2012 15:59 in reply to "RE[3]: Interesting but..."
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2007-04-17

I missed the first graph picture due to an office filter. But I found it funny that it proves my point that the sampling is biased.

The second paragraph that I pointed out earlier, gives 77% iOS6 on the 10 October as it's only considering the latest version of Discovr Music. While the graph in the new post states ~60% on the same date as it consider a larger sample (four apps and several versions). That's a pretty large difference. And the larger sample is still heavily biased as it's related to one vendor with its user base, and not randomly sampled across every iPhone/iPad owner.

I don't understand why you think that the Google method is so flawed. All Android devices apart from the Kindle regularly connects to Google Play for automatic updates.

How is considering only 4 apps from one vendor in the App Store better?

iOS 6 adoption rate might be great, but I still long for Apple to publish results, and if possible on a larger less biased sample. For the moment, only Google does.

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RE[5]: Interesting but...
by jared_wilkes on Fri 19th Oct 2012 16:03 in reply to "RE[4]: Interesting but..."
jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

You decided to look at a link that's not posted and are crying foul that the data represents exactly what it says it does? That's silliness.

And I don't understand why you think any, consistent data collection widely-accepted by one and all as reliable and effective, applied across both platforms is going to show anything other than Android uptake being much, much, much worse than iOS uptake. Trying to discredit reasonable evidence that only purports to be exactly what it is doesn't change reality.

I didn't say this was a better measure. I believe it is a reasonable estimate. The question posed to you by your assertions is: is this estimate so unreasonably inaccurate as to point to the belief that a more accurate estimate would show Google uptake comparable to iOS uptake? The answer is clearly no. Otherwise, you are just handwaving.

Edited 2012-10-19 16:06 UTC

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RE[5]: Interesting but...
by jared_wilkes on Fri 19th Oct 2012 16:04 in reply to "RE[4]: Interesting but..."
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2011-04-25

Oh, and the Kindle Fire is not an Android device!

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RE[5]: Interesting but...
by jared_wilkes on Fri 19th Oct 2012 16:15 in reply to "RE[4]: Interesting but..."
jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

You "long" for Apple to publish data? Seriously? Apple usually does provide an update at their events. iOS 6 has been available for 30 days. They have an event in a little more than 3 days. Your LONGING shall soon be satiated in all likelihood.

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