Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 19th Oct 2012 20:07 UTC
Windows Interesting little tidbit from the Reddit AMA session with Microsoft's Surface team. One Redditor wondered just how much disk space Windows RT takes up - in other words, if you buy the 32GB Surface RT tablet, how much space is left for your stuff? It turns out that while Windows 8 RT is considerably smaller than its Windows 7 x86 predecessor, it's still huge by mobile standards.
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RE[2]: Good reasons or bad excuses?
by kaiwai on Sat 20th Oct 2012 00:38 UTC in reply to "RE: Good reasons or bad excuses?"
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Uh, in comparison to Linux, Windows is terrible about generic drivers. Remember, every single USB optical mouse or keyboard with any sort of reprogramability has its own driver. A lot of these from the same manufacturer use the same software, sure, but that is still a lot of drivers. Windows 7 might have better handling of USB drives and wireless network cards, but quite a few categories of devices will cause Win 7 to automatically install the manufacturer's needlessly proprietary driver. Oh, and let us not forget all those programs that install kernel drivers.

Now, most of those drivers are not included on the default install, but I wouldn't be surprised if some windows machines had 5-10GB of drivers.

Because although some vendors support particular standards they also develop their hardware so that they go beyond just those standards. For example I have a Logitech C920 webcam which is UVC compliant but to access all the features you need to have the Logitech driver install. Another example of that would be printers where a printer might support the 'XML Paper Specification' but require additional drivers to then the end user can be notified as to the level of ink remaining or provide diagnostic information when things go wrong. Then there are those vendors who quite frankly 'don't give a damn' and simply ignore the standards or implement them in a broken way thus making the built in generic ones complete pointless (Linux/*BSD btw suffers from the same problem, even when the driver conforms to 100% of the specification the driver developers then have to spend time programming around dumb decisions made by the hardware engineers at said widget company).

As for the installation size, it will be interesting to see where it being used but with that being said the comparison (by some) between the iPad and Surface is silly given that the Surface allows expansion where as with the iPad when you run out of storage you're 'shit out of luck'. I'd sooner give up some 'thinness' for the sake of having expandability thus enable the 'life' of the product to go beyond simply a refresh cycle or two.

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Standard webcam driers are often better performing, anyway ...while manufacturer-provided largely just give useless trinkets.

WRT printers - yay for artificial segmentation, I suppose (because, with present tech & its costs, it would be probably trivial to equip entire product line with Ethernet/WiFi/BT - and include a diagnostic & configuration webpage, like in routers)

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