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I don't think you can blame people for believing the hype.
We should all believe the Windows hype though, right?
In reality it's complicated by all the different distributions
Funny how this is always brought up as a problem. Do you also have a problem shopping in a store with more than 2-3 different brands of any product? Amazingly enough people manage this EVERY damn day yet we think they can't figure out how to chose from a few different OS products. Really?
but given the choice I'd rather change a setting with a couple of clicks in a control panel, instead of spending time reading howto documents and editing config files. My time is worth something.
So is mine which is why I got tired of having to wade through the registry trying change some setting that wasn't in the UI. It's also not much fun manually editing XML config files.
This stuff goes both ways.
Obviously I've been spoilt by Windows and my expectations for Linux are simply too high.
It's exactly the opposite for me.
That's made more difficult in Linux because even a distribution's official compatibility database can provide highly misleading information
Wow, people aren't perfect and mistakes are sometime made. Holy crap, this is ground breaking news. Good thing mistakes like this are never done anywhere else.
Seriously, come on.
Funny how this is always brought up as a problem. Do you also have a problem shopping in a store with more than 2-3 different brands of any product? Amazingly enough people manage this EVERY damn day yet we think they can't figure out how to chose from a few different OS products. Really?
This is a completely nonsensical comparison. I don't have to worry about a particular tin of beans being incompatible with my brand of microwave.
So is mine which is why I got tired of having to wade through the registry trying change some setting that wasn't in the UI. It's also not much fun manually editing XML config files.
This stuff goes both ways.
This stuff goes both ways.
In more than a decade of using Windows I've only delved into the registry a couple of times. In both cases it was to tweak some obscure setting and there was a simple and straightforward guide to follow to achieve what I wanted.
In Linux I've had to spend hours reading poorly written documentation and editing config files to achieve basic things that would take a couple of clicks in Windows.
Obviously I'm just talking about my experiences with Windows and Linux. YMMV.
Wow, people aren't perfect and mistakes are sometime made. Holy crap, this is ground breaking news. Good thing mistakes like this are never done anywhere else.
Read the post that this was responding to. They claimed that finding out if hardware is fully Linux compatible is an easy process. My point is that it's always a minefield even if someone does their homework.
"{flamebait} often claim that Linux is just as easy to use as Windows. In fact it was claimed in this thread that using Linux would actually save time and effort."
Not just "claimed" but rather "shown" or "proven" or "demonstrated".
Evidence was even provided for your perusal.
Edited 2012-10-21 10:36 UTC
You're missing my point. You claimed that finding out whether hardware is compatible is a quick and easy task. In reality it's complicated by all the different distributions, as just finding out that other people are successfully using a particular device with Linux isn't enough.
Utter rubish. Get a live USB of the distribution you are investigating, and boot the machine you are investigating from that live USB.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_USB
"Like live CDs, live USBs can be used in embedded systems for system administration, data recovery, or the testing of operating system distributions without committing to a permanent installation on the local hard disk drive."
Here is a FOSS live USB creator program for Windows, to make it easy for you:
http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
I can do without graphical tools, but given the choice I'd rather change a setting with a couple of clicks in a control panel, instead of spending time reading howto documents and editing config files. My time is worth something.
You mean like this?
http://imgur.com/gdyAa
That is the System Settings opening GUI for Kubuntu 12.10, which is of course the equivalent of Windows Control Panel. Many of those top-level icons lead to three or four lower-level icons, which in turn lead to GUI dialog boxes for configuration settings. Enjoy.
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Fanboys often claim that Linux is just as easy to use as Windows. In fact it was claimed in this thread that using Linux would actually save time and effort. I don't think you can blame people for believing the hype.
You're missing my point. You claimed that finding out whether hardware is compatible is a quick and easy task. In reality it's complicated by all the different distributions, as just finding out that other people are successfully using a particular device with Linux isn't enough.
I can do without graphical tools, but given the choice I'd rather change a setting with a couple of clicks in a control panel, instead of spending time reading howto documents and editing config files. My time is worth something.
Personally, I consider graphical configuration tools to be a pretty basic feature in a modern OS. If one isn't available for a particular piece of hardware then I wouldn't consider it to be fully supported. Obviously I've been spoilt by Windows and my expectations for Linux are simply too high.
I'm not blaming Linux, but who's to blame isn't important to me as a user. What matters to me is that I can easily find hardware that does what I want and works properly with my OS.
That's made more difficult in Linux because even a distribution's official compatibility database can provide highly misleading information, listing devices as "working perfectly" when in fact significant features are non-functional.