Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 18th Oct 2012 18:15 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Ubuntu 12.10 has been released, sporting the rather... Interesting tagline 'Avoid the pain of Windows 8'. Two main features are that websites can now be treated as actual applications, integrating them into Unity. The divide between local and online content when searching has also been softened, which, they claim, makes it easier to find what you're looking for. On the server side, it includes the Folsom release of OpenStack, "Cinder, for block storage and Quantum, a virtual networking API. Ubuntu's Metal-as-a-Service bare-metal provisioning tool has been updated and now supports Calxeda hyperscale hardware based on ARM".
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by Soulbender on Sun 21st Oct 2012 06:05 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: ..."
Soulbender
Member since:
2005-08-18

I don't think you can blame people for believing the hype.


We should all believe the Windows hype though, right?

In reality it's complicated by all the different distributions


Funny how this is always brought up as a problem. Do you also have a problem shopping in a store with more than 2-3 different brands of any product? Amazingly enough people manage this EVERY damn day yet we think they can't figure out how to chose from a few different OS products. Really?

but given the choice I'd rather change a setting with a couple of clicks in a control panel, instead of spending time reading howto documents and editing config files. My time is worth something.


So is mine which is why I got tired of having to wade through the registry trying change some setting that wasn't in the UI. It's also not much fun manually editing XML config files.
This stuff goes both ways.

Obviously I've been spoilt by Windows and my expectations for Linux are simply too high.


It's exactly the opposite for me.

That's made more difficult in Linux because even a distribution's official compatibility database can provide highly misleading information


Wow, people aren't perfect and mistakes are sometime made. Holy crap, this is ground breaking news. Good thing mistakes like this are never done anywhere else.
Seriously, come on.

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by Dave_K on Sun 21st Oct 2012 16:36 in reply to "RE[6]: ..."
Dave_K Member since:
2005-11-16

Funny how this is always brought up as a problem. Do you also have a problem shopping in a store with more than 2-3 different brands of any product? Amazingly enough people manage this EVERY damn day yet we think they can't figure out how to chose from a few different OS products. Really?


This is a completely nonsensical comparison. I don't have to worry about a particular tin of beans being incompatible with my brand of microwave.

So is mine which is why I got tired of having to wade through the registry trying change some setting that wasn't in the UI. It's also not much fun manually editing XML config files.
This stuff goes both ways.


In more than a decade of using Windows I've only delved into the registry a couple of times. In both cases it was to tweak some obscure setting and there was a simple and straightforward guide to follow to achieve what I wanted.

In Linux I've had to spend hours reading poorly written documentation and editing config files to achieve basic things that would take a couple of clicks in Windows.

Obviously I'm just talking about my experiences with Windows and Linux. YMMV.

Wow, people aren't perfect and mistakes are sometime made. Holy crap, this is ground breaking news. Good thing mistakes like this are never done anywhere else.


Read the post that this was responding to. They claimed that finding out if hardware is fully Linux compatible is an easy process. My point is that it's always a minefield even if someone does their homework.

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by lemur2 on Sun 21st Oct 2012 23:01 in reply to "RE[7]: ..."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

In more than a decade of using Windows I've only delved into the registry a couple of times. In both cases it was to tweak some obscure setting and there was a simple and straightforward guide to follow to achieve what I wanted.

In Linux I've had to spend hours reading poorly written documentation and editing config files to achieve basic things that would take a couple of clicks in Windows.

Obviously I'm just talking about my experiences with Windows and Linux. YMMV.


You aren't doing it right. Choose a desktop (such as Ubuntu) which is oriented to giving a good desktop experience to non-expert users, and you will have a good experience as a non-expert user. Choose a system which experts (suppliers) will certify runs Linux (by being prepared to sell it to you pre-installed), and you will not have to edit a single config file in a decade.

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