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I don't write code but bloat is undeniable and if those who do don't find the growth of bloat an issue I despair.
Nevermind applications for the moment, just consider the growth in Windows OS size , if that's down to 'features' what radical new features have we seen from Windows this last decade to account for it. Most everything 'radical' I can recall microsoft has tried to do with the OS has been shelved and we've just had evolutionary iterations, some better than others, of the code base. It is something and one expects a cost in size.....but, how long can this continue?
Bloat is a word used by people who usually have no idea what they are talking about.
The inner workings of the OS has been pretty much been overhauled since XP while keeping backwards compatibility (this includes bugs in previous version as well).
I can assure you that this is extremely difficult to do.
Possibly why Win RT is smaller than the predecessors'.
I disagree... I would not necessarily call all features bloat. Some things are just completely unnecessary and that's what I refer to as bloat. Of course, what that is varies to everyone, but the reality is Windows tries to do everything for everyone so it's full of tons of crap, whether you want it or not. When something takes up more resources (drive space, processing power, memory) than needed (for unwanted things), I call that bloat.
Prime example: Two completely conflicting graphical user environments designed for totally different types of computers, with the more functional one being purposely made more inconvenient to use to get everyone to switch to the touchscreen-type UI. And if Windows has been getting tons of useful features, then it doesn't seem to have much to show for. Metro sure isn't what I'd call feature-packed.
When I can't run even the 32-bit version of what appears to be a glorified mobile OS/traditional desktop OS hybrid in a virtual machine with less than a gig of RAM and about 16 gigs virtual drive capacity... now that's what I call bloated.
In the web.config, they are turned off an ignored by the CLR when you set the debug=false or compile for "RELEASE".
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vs2010trainingcourse_webdevelopment...
Oh well ... OSNEWS ... lots of people pretending they know things.
Also if I am talking about JavaScript, yes it is perfectly ok leaving debug symbols in there.
Edited 2012-10-22 19:18 UTC




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Bloat word is banded around yet again.
It is called features. Normally even my basic web code triples in size after putting in all the error, logging and debugging symbols.
I honestly don't believe many people on this website write code or if they do it isn't very robust.