Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Oct 2012 13:36 UTC
"One of the exhibits Samsung has now made public tells an interesting tale. It's the slide presentation that Apple showed Samsung when it first tried (and failed) to get Samsung to license Apple's patents prior to the start of litigation. While some of the numbers were earlier reported on when the exhibit was used at trial, the slides themselves provide more data - specifically on the difference between what Apple wanted Samsung to pay for Windows phones and for Android phones. The slides punch huge holes in Apple's FRAND arguments. Apple and Microsoft complain to regulators about FRAND rates being excessive and oppressive at approximately $6 per unit, or 2.4%; but the Apple offer was not only at a much higher rate, it targeted Android in a way that seems deliberately designed to destroy its ability to compete in the marketplace." Eagerly awaiting the 45 paragraph comment explaining how this is completely fair and not hypocritical at all. Bonus points if it includes something about Eric Schmidt being on Apple's board, and, double bonus point if it mentions one of the QWERTY Android prototypes. Mega Epic Bonus if it somehow manages to draw a line from Edison, Tesla, to Jobs.
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RE[9]: Dubious argument
by jared_wilkes on Mon 22nd Oct 2012 17:07
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I do not derive the implication that these are essential whatsoever. The only implication I derive is that Apple believes it has a broad range of patents covering a number of areas, that some in the industry are already violating some number of them, and if those companies would like to license them as a portfolio, it would cost them a pretty penny.
Valuable and/or popular is not synonymous with essential.
Groklaw is choosing to distort the picture by claiming they are de facto standards or essential. But neither view is being presented by Apple. Groklaw is making it up.
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I do not derive the implication that these are essential whatsoever.
That's fair enough, of course, but it might not be an unreasonable way to interpret the slides. For example, at the bottom of slide 8 it states that "an iPhone advanced mobile class device would require all 3 licences". The implication is that a licence would be required (and is therefore essential).
I wasn't impressed by the Groklaw article, and clearly there's a lot of interpretation going on. However, since I didn't look at the patents in detail myself, I really can't judge whether they could be considered essential or not. I appreciate you've made up your mind on the matter though!
RE[9]: Dubious argument
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 22nd Oct 2012 17:08
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I guess it depends on what's meant by "essential". The slides imply that Apple patents cover: basic telephony, O/S, Object Oriented, Touch, GUI, apps, music, etc.
An "Advanced Mobile" licence (slide 8) more specifically is implied to cover:
- Multitouch user interface
- Apps and App Store
- iTunes media store and media player
- Real Web and Web services
- Advanced sensors and device context
- Service-oriented offering
Some of these look pretty essential to me. However, whether or not any or all of these are actually covered by the patents (rather than just implied by the slides) is another matter.
[Edit: fixed formatting.]
Edited 2012-10-22 17:04 UTC