Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 18th Oct 2012 18:15 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Ubuntu 12.10 has been released, sporting the rather... Interesting tagline 'Avoid the pain of Windows 8'. Two main features are that websites can now be treated as actual applications, integrating them into Unity. The divide between local and online content when searching has also been softened, which, they claim, makes it easier to find what you're looking for. On the server side, it includes the Folsom release of OpenStack, "Cinder, for block storage and Quantum, a virtual networking API. Ubuntu's Metal-as-a-Service bare-metal provisioning tool has been updated and now supports Calxeda hyperscale hardware based on ARM".
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by lucas_maximus on Mon 22nd Oct 2012 19:07 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: ..."
lucas_maximus
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2009-08-18



GNU Octave is a MATLAB work-alike, it uses the same language & syntax etc. Most MATLAB scripts should work fine without modification.


"Should" being the operative word.

Contrary to your claim, about half of the software applications which I use regularly on my desktop are not available at all on Windows. If you use Windows you would have to find an alternative work-alike program.


Which is what these programs are to their proprietary equivalents. The argument works both ways.

Fortunately there is a huge range of software available for Windows, but unfortunately for you, many of those work-alike equivalent programs for Windows are proprietary, and they will cost you money. So much money, in fact, that you will have to spend as much again on software as I spent for the complete system.


Well it depends whether they are worth the cost over the free alternatives. Does mean these programs are evil or shouldn't be purchased.

As far as the quality of FOSS software (such as the GNU Octave MATLAB work-alike) goes, here is one client:

http://www.internetnews.com/skerner/2008/09/large-hadron-collider--... [/q]

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by lemur2 on Tue 23rd Oct 2012 02:29 in reply to "RE[8]: ..."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"

GNU Octave is a MATLAB work-alike, it uses the same language & syntax etc. Most MATLAB scripts should work fine without modification.


"Should" being the operative word.

Contrary to your claim, about half of the software applications which I use regularly on my desktop are not available at all on Windows. If you use Windows you would have to find an alternative work-alike program.


Which is what these programs are to their proprietary equivalents. The argument works both ways.

Fortunately there is a huge range of software available for Windows, but unfortunately for you, many of those work-alike equivalent programs for Windows are proprietary, and they will cost you money. So much money, in fact, that you will have to spend as much again on software as I spent for the complete system.


Well it depends whether they are worth the cost over the free alternatives. Does mean these programs are evil or shouldn't be purchased.
"

We agree almost completely, up to a point. The only thing I would add is that if there is a quality FOSS program work-alike and an expensive proprietary alternative, and they are say 99% compatible but to work in one program or the other one has just to change the odd thing here and there, then my observation would be that say 99.9999% of the parties with an interest would be best served if the consensus was that the FOSS program was the gold standard, and the proprietary program was almost but not quite compatible.

In other words, it should be seen as a case of: "most GNU Octave scripts should work fine in MATLAB. "Should" being the operative word. Sometimes MATLAB is incompatible and it will let you down.".

Looking at it that way around is in the best interests of the vast majority of people ... everybody except MATLAB is best served by such a consensus. I hope you are objective enough to see this point. Too bad (for you) if you aren't.

Edited 2012-10-23 02:45 UTC

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by lucas_maximus on Tue 23rd Oct 2012 08:40 in reply to "RE[9]: ..."
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

If I am doing anything that requires R or Matlab, you are doing specialized research or it is provided by the University in the labs.

Matlab is used by such a specialized niche of people that having a free alternative isn't the issue ... there is a lot of money getting spent elsewhere and it isn't on the software licenses.

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