Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Oct 2012 13:36 UTC
Legal "One of the exhibits Samsung has now made public tells an interesting tale. It's the slide presentation that Apple showed Samsung when it first tried (and failed) to get Samsung to license Apple's patents prior to the start of litigation. While some of the numbers were earlier reported on when the exhibit was used at trial, the slides themselves provide more data - specifically on the difference between what Apple wanted Samsung to pay for Windows phones and for Android phones. The slides punch huge holes in Apple's FRAND arguments. Apple and Microsoft complain to regulators about FRAND rates being excessive and oppressive at approximately $6 per unit, or 2.4%; but the Apple offer was not only at a much higher rate, it targeted Android in a way that seems deliberately designed to destroy its ability to compete in the marketplace." Eagerly awaiting the 45 paragraph comment explaining how this is completely fair and not hypocritical at all. Bonus points if it includes something about Eric Schmidt being on Apple's board, and, double bonus point if it mentions one of the QWERTY Android prototypes. Mega Epic Bonus if it somehow manages to draw a line from Edison, Tesla, to Jobs.
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RE[4]: Incredible
by jared_wilkes on Mon 22nd Oct 2012 19:47 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Incredible"
jared_wilkes
Member since:
2011-04-25

I find zero logic in this post, sorry. Unclear how you'd like me to respond.

Yes, if your device doesn't include a full touchscreen, the patent portfolio is discounted. If you are using Windows or some other technology that may have a sublicense to some of the patents, you may receive a discount. I don't see any logic in claiming that these discount statements means that any and all touchscreen devices utilize Apple patents.

Edited 2012-10-22 19:55 UTC

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RE[5]: Incredible
by phoudoin on Mon 22nd Oct 2012 21:55 in reply to "RE[4]: Incredible"
phoudoin Member since:
2006-06-09

Yes, if your device doesn't include a full touchscreen, the patent portfolio is discounted.
I don't see any logic in claiming that these discount statements means that any and all touchscreen devices utilize Apple patents.


Now that's me who don't see any logic in your!

If you doesn't include a full touchscreen, Apple agree to discount his "smartphone license" rate, but it doesn't mean that when you do, the fact that such discount is no more applicable anymore doesn't mean that Apple consider that all touchscreen mobile devices are using inevitably some of their patents on this area?

I will agree that patent and logic are not necessarily living in the same space, but your seems too as well...

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RE[6]: Incredible
by jared_wilkes on Mon 22nd Oct 2012 22:19 in reply to "RE[5]: Incredible"
jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

If you doesn't include a full touchscreen, Apple agree to discount his "smartphone license" rate, but it doesn't mean that when you do, the fact that such discount is no more applicable anymore doesn't mean that Apple consider that all touchscreen mobile devices are using inevitably some of their patents on this area?



Is that supposed to be one sentence? Is it supposed to make sense?

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