Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 23rd Oct 2012 19:12 UTC
Apple It's one of those days again: Apple held a product announcement today, announcing several new products. The most important of which was rumoured about for a long time now: a smaller iPad. It's called the iPad mini, and has the potential to become the best-selling iPad - and thus, the best selling tablet.
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Fail
by Jon Dough on Tue 23rd Oct 2012 21:38 UTC
Jon Dough
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2005-11-30

$130.00 USD more than the Google Nexus 7, yet the hardware is less capable and less screen resolution? Fail.

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RE: Fail
by bowkota on Tue 23rd Oct 2012 21:50 in reply to "Fail"
bowkota Member since:
2011-10-12

There's a correlation between hardware and software when it comes to performance. If you've used both devices with numerous apps extensively then you'll notice quite a difference.

Also, let me also use the famous car analogy.
The Nissan GTR (impressive car) is faster than a Porsche Carrera however it doesn't make it a more a appealing car to most people. It's not a drag race.

Edited 2012-10-23 21:51 UTC

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RE: Fail
by darknexus on Tue 23rd Oct 2012 23:16 in reply to "Fail"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

$130.00 USD more than the Google Nexus 7, yet the hardware is less capable and less screen resolution? Fail.

You're comparing the 8 gigabyte Nexus 7 to the 16 gigabyte iPad Mini? Whatever makes your comparisons skew toward your chosen platform I guess, but try being a little more accurate. $249 vs $329. That's $80 more, not $130. Either way, your platform comes out looking better, so no need to futz the comparison and look foolish.

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RE: Fail
by Soulbender on Wed 24th Oct 2012 02:40 in reply to "Fail"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

People don't buy it because of the hardware, they buy it because it's Apple.

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RE: Fail
by henderson101 on Wed 24th Oct 2012 11:52 in reply to "Fail"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

I own a Nexus 7. The build quality is horrible, but it's a fairly okay device. It is not half as hardy as my iPad 2, nor is is as fast. The iPad Mini is on a par with the iPad 2, but with general improvements, therefore is more than likely a better all round tablet.

Android on the Nexus 7 is not snappy all of the time. Some apps are pretty dire, and the battery life is appalling. Not "in use" battery life, as that is as Google/Asus advertises, but if it is asleep for a day, it loses 10-20% battery life. From a full charge, I can leave it with no use for a number of days (say 3) and it is near 20% when I next use it. There's no rhyme or reason, and it doesn't matter what apps I kill. There's something fundamentally wrong with the OS or one of the Apps I have installed. I'm not about to delete them all, so I deal with it. In contrast, I can leave my iPad 2 for 2 weeks from a full charge and it will still be above 80%. One of these tablets is doing something right... (if anyone wants to "help" me track down the bad App, I'm open to that - but it's not really a high priority for me. As I said, I just charge the tablet every few days.)

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RE[2]: Fail
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 24th Oct 2012 11:59 in reply to "RE: Fail"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Wow, that's quite bad. I can go by on active use on my Nexus 7 for 3-4 days, at which point I'll hit the 15-20%. Never tried pure standby.

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RE[2]: Fail
by some1 on Wed 24th Oct 2012 15:34 in reply to "RE: Fail"
some1 Member since:
2010-10-05

How is it horrible? Seems pretty decent to me.
I had a similar battery life problem for a while, but it seems that 4.1.2 update fixed it. Does battery life diagram in settings show anything interesting?

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RE[2]: Fail
by rklrkl on Wed 24th Oct 2012 19:38 in reply to "RE: Fail"
rklrkl Member since:
2005-07-06

To analyse apps/services running on your Android machine, you might want to look for "SystemPanelLite Task Manager" in the Google Play store. You'd be surprised how many apps install a service that might chew battery life during sleeping.

If you want a semi-automated way to improve battery life when sleeping, something like the very popular (10m+ downloads!) "JuiceDefender" in Google Play might be another thing to look at.

As you say, it might be something waking up the tablet regularly to do some syncing or polling. Examples could include Gmail, Google Currents etc. - turn off any auto-syncing for those to see if it makes any difference.

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RE: Fail
by lucac81 on Thu 25th Oct 2012 08:13 in reply to "Fail"
lucac81 Member since:
2007-09-13

Well raw power isn't everything... as long the tablet is able to load apps faster I don't mind... also to me now is more appealing an ipad because of apps. If I took the nexus I would have easily spent those 80 € of difference in apps

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