Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 23rd Oct 2012 19:12 UTC
Apple It's one of those days again: Apple held a product announcement today, announcing several new products. The most important of which was rumoured about for a long time now: a smaller iPad. It's called the iPad mini, and has the potential to become the best-selling iPad - and thus, the best selling tablet.
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RE: Fail
by henderson101 on Wed 24th Oct 2012 11:52 UTC in reply to "Fail"
henderson101
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2006-05-30

I own a Nexus 7. The build quality is horrible, but it's a fairly okay device. It is not half as hardy as my iPad 2, nor is is as fast. The iPad Mini is on a par with the iPad 2, but with general improvements, therefore is more than likely a better all round tablet.

Android on the Nexus 7 is not snappy all of the time. Some apps are pretty dire, and the battery life is appalling. Not "in use" battery life, as that is as Google/Asus advertises, but if it is asleep for a day, it loses 10-20% battery life. From a full charge, I can leave it with no use for a number of days (say 3) and it is near 20% when I next use it. There's no rhyme or reason, and it doesn't matter what apps I kill. There's something fundamentally wrong with the OS or one of the Apps I have installed. I'm not about to delete them all, so I deal with it. In contrast, I can leave my iPad 2 for 2 weeks from a full charge and it will still be above 80%. One of these tablets is doing something right... (if anyone wants to "help" me track down the bad App, I'm open to that - but it's not really a high priority for me. As I said, I just charge the tablet every few days.)

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RE[2]: Fail
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 24th Oct 2012 11:59 in reply to "RE: Fail"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Wow, that's quite bad. I can go by on active use on my Nexus 7 for 3-4 days, at which point I'll hit the 15-20%. Never tried pure standby.

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RE[3]: Fail
by henderson101 on Fri 26th Oct 2012 01:28 in reply to "RE[2]: Fail"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

I can go by 3 days max. But any real use, it lasts maybe 2 days.

Today it (for the second time in less than a week) it threw up the "You must charge now" dialog, then almost immediately turned off. The next 30 minutes was a battle with convincing it to charge. After performing the "magic" 30 second power button press, it was okay and charged. But as to how long that will last is hard to say. Google tells me I'm not alone here.

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RE[2]: Fail
by some1 on Wed 24th Oct 2012 15:34 in reply to "RE: Fail"
some1 Member since:
2010-10-05

How is it horrible? Seems pretty decent to me.
I had a similar battery life problem for a while, but it seems that 4.1.2 update fixed it. Does battery life diagram in settings show anything interesting?

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RE[3]: Fail
by henderson101 on Fri 26th Oct 2012 09:39 in reply to "RE[2]: Fail"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

iPad will stay charged for a month if I leave it in standby (sleeping, but "on".) I've done that before and from a full charge it was still circa 40% charged. I would expect the same from the Nexus 7. I don't get anywhere near that though. I'll take some of the advice presented in this thread and investigate!

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RE[2]: Fail
by rklrkl on Wed 24th Oct 2012 19:38 in reply to "RE: Fail"
rklrkl Member since:
2005-07-06

To analyse apps/services running on your Android machine, you might want to look for "SystemPanelLite Task Manager" in the Google Play store. You'd be surprised how many apps install a service that might chew battery life during sleeping.

If you want a semi-automated way to improve battery life when sleeping, something like the very popular (10m+ downloads!) "JuiceDefender" in Google Play might be another thing to look at.

As you say, it might be something waking up the tablet regularly to do some syncing or polling. Examples could include Gmail, Google Currents etc. - turn off any auto-syncing for those to see if it makes any difference.

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RE[3]: Fail
by jared_wilkes on Wed 24th Oct 2012 20:19 in reply to "RE[2]: Fail"
jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

Rather than finding apps to find apps that burn battery, I would simply prefer apps that don't burn battery.

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RE[3]: Fail
by henderson101 on Fri 26th Oct 2012 09:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Fail"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

Thanks, downloading!

As you say, it might be something waking up the tablet regularly to do some syncing or polling. Examples could include Gmail, Google Currents etc. - turn off any auto-syncing for those to see if it makes any difference.


I turned off auto-syncing, location and bluetooth after about a week. I do use Gmail, Currents, Facebook and Twitter, so maybe its one of those. I also do have Flash installed, but I was under the impression that it only gets used by browsers that support it, Chrome not being one. We'll see!

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