Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 24th Oct 2012 23:09 UTC
Windows "The Surface is a nice tablet. The design and aesthetic are pleasing, the feel in the hands, particularly of the kickstand and magnetic cover connection is excellent. But is it worth buying on the day of release?" After these three reviews, I still want a Surface RT. As much as I think Metro - and especially its applications - has a long way to go, I feel like I should reward the fact that Microsoft dares to be different. Too bad Microsoft doesn't want me to buy one.
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RE: I'm not going to...
by kwan_e on Thu 25th Oct 2012 07:41 UTC in reply to "I'm not going to..."
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...reward MS for being daring, though I give them credit for it!!!

That's the difference between MS customers and Apple customers. Apple customers will more than happily reward Apple for being daring and will blatantly overlook any flaw that would be deal breaking for an MS/non-Apple product.

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RE[2]: I'm not going to...
by tylerdurden on Thu 25th Oct 2012 19:30 in reply to "RE: I'm not going to..."
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No that is the simplistic childish view, not everything is based around the silly dramatic dynamics of a grade school playground.

First off, Apple's stock has been down almost $100 in the past 6 weeks, which means that Apple's customers are not returning/growing at the same rate since their product offering is stagnating. So they have to come up with something big and new soon, if they want to keep being at the top.

But Apple's initial success in the mobile markets, at least in the US, is due to the fact that Apple understood that these devices would be used as media/content consumption devices mostly. And they provided an ecosystem that could give customers a very very convenient way of addressing most media needs: Apple has a very large selection of music, video, books, etc. And it is very easy for people to access and consume all that content. And yes, some people seem to really like the design and style of Apple's products. But the reason why people bought the iPhone/iPad/iPod in droves is not because they just looked good, but also because those products did exactly what they wanted and they could access the media they craved. So there is more than just style and fashion sense.

Microsoft does not seem to understand that. They think people chose apple because of stylistic concerns, but that is only a part of it. MS has a monopoly on the Desktop, so they assumed they can leverage Office, once again, as the value proposition for their nice and shiny tablet. Which is ironic, because MS does have a good strategy with the Xbox as a content consuming device for the living room, but they do not know how to execute it in the mobile space (e.g. Zune). The irony is that Apple has not been able to execute a good strategy on the living room with their AppleTV.

I can see windows RT and Windows Phone to be a success with the business crowd, not in the consumer space. Probably RIM, and to a lesser extent Google, are the ones in trouble with the new MS strategy, not Apple.

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RE[3]: I'm not going to...
by kwan_e on Fri 26th Oct 2012 01:15 in reply to "RE[2]: I'm not going to..."
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No that is the simplistic childish view, not everything is based around the silly dramatic dynamics of a grade school playground.

Except that's exactly what this kind of consumerism is. Like it or not, most people who buy these things are acting on impulse. The ones who make informed decisions are few and far between, even among the readership of OSNews.

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RE[3]: I'm not going to...
by wocowboy on Fri 26th Oct 2012 10:49 in reply to "RE[2]: I'm not going to..."
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Evidently you didn't see Apple's earnings report yesterday, it kinda blows your whole anti-Apple argument out of the water.

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RE[3]: I'm not going to...
by mistersoft on Fri 26th Oct 2012 21:53 in reply to "RE[2]: I'm not going to..."
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I don't think Microsoft are so naive/simplistic as to think people really choose iPads for stylistic reasons alone at all!

They absolutely are (now) getting that the simplicity of the devices (to the end user), the multitouch interfaces and yes, you're right .....all the applications that simply and gratifyingly present all that media to the consumer IS KEY alongside the 'nice design' to selling the tablet as a desirable object.

Why else would they be go totally gung-ho with Metro and refining they're touch interface, and their own walled garden app store...........etc

I think they're flaw if there one is this:
Office(specifically on winRT)is only of verrrry limited added value. No-one (i exaggerate a little), but seriously, No-one that doesn't already have a bonafide lap-top or desktop PC already is going to invest in a tablet of ANY persuasion even a pretend-PC winRT one!!

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