Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 26th Oct 2012 21:31 UTC, submitted by robertson
General Development "This website is here to guide you through the process of developing very basic operating systems on the Raspberry Pi! This website is aimed at people aged 16 and upwards, although younger readers may still find some of it accessible, particularly with assistance. More lessons may be added to this course in time." From the Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge, one of the institutions behind the Raspberry Pi. Amazing resource.
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RE[3]: Aged 16 and upwards?
by Alfman on Sun 28th Oct 2012 18:01 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Aged 16 and upwards?"
Alfman
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2011-01-28

viton,

"You're asking too much from education system. If you want to learn something, nobody can stop you (except religion issues). At 16 a lot of my friends were fluent asm coders."

I was too, but times are changing. I think there's a lot schools could do to improve education, but most districts here are suffering from spending cuts that have occurred throughout this decade.

Then there's the spread of personal computers like ipads which cannot be programmed directly like the computers they're replacing. Many families still have access to unrestricted computers, but I worry that alot fewer will have access to them in the future going by today's trends.

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RE[4]: Aged 16 and upwards?
by viton on Sun 28th Oct 2012 22:37 in reply to "RE[3]: Aged 16 and upwards?"
viton Member since:
2005-08-09

Then there's the spread of personal computers like ipads which cannot be programmed directly like the computers they're replacing.


I hope strict Apple/WinRT policies will be softened one day. But on Android there are no restrictions like this.
The natural "restriction" of coding on touch screen-based devices is the usability of current development environments. Keyboard/Mouse requirement is a rather poor solution. There are interesting concepts like "Lisping" nevertheless.

Many families still have access to unrestricted computers, but I worry that alot fewer will have access to them in the future going by today's trends.


The problem actually is only with native apps.
Right now web-apps development is possible even on iPad, and it will play a significant role in future.
If only WebGL worked on it... (Without JB)
Now you can write almost anything in javascript - like web-"operating system", WebGL game/demo, retro console emulator, graphics editor, etc
Even if you want to feel really "old-skool", there is something for you: http://bellard.org/jslinux/

There are some online IDEs like http://coderun.com/ide or http://cloud-ide.com

The same could be done for native apps, where you can write with any device you have, build and test your app on several target devices at once with realtime video-feedback, then submit final build directly to your dev account. But I expect Apple's "SchutzStaffel" will tear such a service apart :-)

Edited 2012-10-28 22:43 UTC

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RE[5]: Aged 16 and upwards?
by Alfman on Mon 29th Oct 2012 05:12 in reply to "RE[4]: Aged 16 and upwards?"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

viton,

"I hope strict Apple/WinRT policies will be softened one day. But on Android there are no restrictions like this."


I can hope so too, but I don't think corporations will be willing to secede their control especially once they've become entrenched middlemen. It's why I believe it's so important to resist them today.

Android is one of the more open platforms, but it's not all clear sailing there either. Some carriers/manufacturers prohibit sideloading on their android devices, although I'm not sure how widespread the problem is. B&N forces nook users to use their marketplace, even if their effectiveness might fall a bit short. I know AT&T was restricting sideloading on their android devices.

http://liliputing.com/2011/11/how-to-sideload-apps-on-the-nook-tabl...

http://androidandme.com/2010/03/news/dell-aero-continues-atts-lockd...

My information is dated, if anyone knows of a matrix that shows the current status of which devices/carriers allow/prohibit android sideloading, please link it!

Sideload Wonder Machine is software that uses a host to subvert the restriction using android's usb programming commands.

http://www.androidcentral.com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-si...


"The problem actually is only with native apps.
Right now web-apps development is possible even on iPad, and it will play a significant role in future."

In the context of our discussion regarding technology access and education, does having web resources make up for the lack of local development capabilities?

Luckily many households *still* have full computers such that kids who are inclined to tinker with technology at home can, but the trends show that full computers are slowly/quickly being displaced. Does anyone know to what end?

Speaking for myself only, my ability to learn about assembly, libraries, io, interrupts, graphics rendering, code generation, etc, would have been severely impeded if my parents had bought me an ipad back then (throw in a keyboard for typing) instead of a computer.

Edited 2012-10-29 05:15 UTC

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