Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 29th Oct 2012 18:14 UTC
Google While Microsoft is unveiling all about Windows Phone 8, Google ruined the party a little bit by 'leaking' all about Android 4.2, the Nexus 10 tablet, and the new Nexus phone, the LG Nexus 4. There's some pretty awesome stuff in here from Google - except for the fact the devices themselves are kind of ugly.
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RE: Nexus 4
by leos on Tue 30th Oct 2012 03:12 UTC in reply to "Nexus 4"
leos
Member since:
2005-09-21

I'm sorry, but the new Nexus 4 phone is a joke:

NO LTE
NO 32 GIG VERSION
NO SD CARD SLOT
NO removable battery
NO real reason to upgrade

Hey Google, 2010 called and wants its smartphone back. And while Google is making excuses about why an LTE phone is so impractical:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-hav...

Apple just released an LTE phone in the US on all major carriers. So now Google customers are stuck between buying this piece of shit or having to choose a phone that is violated by the carriers and will take 6-8 months to get updates.


I'm an iPhone user but I think this phone is brilliant. So it's not LTE which is a little surprising in 2012, but it's also $299. That's crazy affordable for the technology. Never missed an SD card or a removable battery so I don't see that as a negative.

The only concern I would have about this trend is that Google is likely just breaking even on the hardware or the margins are razor thin. So where are they making their money? Well by advertising to you. So I'm a little wary that the entire business model rests on squeezing as much money out of me post-purchase, when my personal information is so valuable to advertisers.

Edited 2012-10-30 03:14 UTC

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RE[2]: Nexus 4
by unclefester on Tue 30th Oct 2012 04:04 in reply to "RE: Nexus 4"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13


The only concern I would have about this trend is that Google is likely just breaking even on the hardware or the margins are razor thin. So where are they making their money?


The fact is that tablets and phones really aren't that expensive to make. eg Just see how little Huawei phones cost in comparison to comparable models from "major" brands.

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RE[3]: Nexus 4
by leos on Tue 30th Oct 2012 05:16 in reply to "RE[2]: Nexus 4"
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

"
The only concern I would have about this trend is that Google is likely just breaking even on the hardware or the margins are razor thin. So where are they making their money?


The fact is that tablets and phones really aren't that expensive to make. eg Just see how little Huawei phones cost in comparison to comparable models from "major" brands.
"

There's a difference between a quality phone and a cheap piece of crap

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RE[3]: Nexus 4
by nemith on Tue 30th Oct 2012 07:01 in reply to "RE[2]: Nexus 4"
nemith Member since:
2005-07-28


The only concern I would have about this trend is that Google is likely just breaking even on the hardware or the margins are razor thin. So where are they making their money?


Don't fool yourself. Apple is in advertising as well. Just cause you shell out a sh%t ton of money doesn't mean they aren't doing the same analytics on your usage and data.

Three is nothing to prove that Apple isn't any more or less evil than Google other than crack pot ideas about pricing of devices.

When it comes down to it the reason why Google is coming out with cheap tablets is to gain adoption. They want a consumer this holiday season to look at a Nexus device and choose it on price over some of the competition. The goal here is to try and kick start the Android tablet eco-system. Attract more developers or get current developers to write tablet optimized devices.

The biggest complaint about Android tablets is the lack of proper applications. Prove android is a proper and popular platform and allow for other non-nexus devices to charge a premium later down the road once the ecosystem is a true competitor to iOS/iPad.

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RE[2]: Nexus 4
by WorknMan on Tue 30th Oct 2012 04:38 in reply to "RE: Nexus 4"
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2005-11-13

I'm an iPhone user but I think this phone is brilliant. So it's not LTE which is a little surprising in 2012, but it's also $299.


That's fine, but I wish they'd make two Nexus phones... one for the low-end, and one for the high-end. Fact is, if you want to stay with stock Android, you have less phones/tablets to choose from than iOS users do. And you know you have a problem when you're offering fewer options than Apple ;)

The only concern I would have about this trend is that Google is likely just breaking even on the hardware or the margins are razor thin. So where are they making their money? Well by advertising to you. So I'm a little wary that the entire business model rests on squeezing as much money out of me post-purchase, when my personal information is so valuable to advertisers.


Nice thing about Nexus devices is that they're super simple to root. And once you have rooted, then get this:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.adaway&hl=en

That pretty much takes care of the advertising problem, so now they can waste their time tracking me all they want ;)

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RE[3]: Nexus 4
by cdude on Tue 30th Oct 2012 06:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Nexus 4"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

Let's see. Nexus 4 vs iPhone 5 is 4:5 with the differences that first not only the last 2 Nexus device are still supported and second they are all very different in specs, design, form factor unlike iPhone. Looks for me as Google offers more choice in there Nexus portfolio then Apple does with its very same phone since v1 (with the exception of the newer bigger screen).

Edited 2012-10-30 06:10 UTC

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RE[3]: Nexus 4
by dsmogor on Tue 30th Oct 2012 09:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Nexus 4"
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

By solving "advertisement problem" people might ultimately "solve" application problem on Android... by making soft houses drop support for the platform.
I myself consider extra power and attention consumed by ads a fair price for the apps.
If you want to do away with the adds, consider actually supporting people who wrote the software.

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RE[3]: Nexus 4
by zima on Sat 3rd Nov 2012 06:05 in reply to "RE[2]: Nexus 4"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

I wish they'd make two Nexus phones... one for the low-end, and one for the high-end.

I'd say the first would be "middle segment" at worst - and, really, this new Nexus belongs to lower reaches of high-end.

Low is something like http://press.nokia.com/2011/08/25/nokia-launches-the-nokia-101-and-... (or the earlier 1616, or whole 1100-like family), maybe touching on some lower-priced S40 handsets (like 2330, generally many visible in http://www.opera.com/smw/2011/11/ )

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