Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 29th Oct 2012 18:14 UTC
Google While Microsoft is unveiling all about Windows Phone 8, Google ruined the party a little bit by 'leaking' all about Android 4.2, the Nexus 10 tablet, and the new Nexus phone, the LG Nexus 4. There's some pretty awesome stuff in here from Google - except for the fact the devices themselves are kind of ugly.
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RE: Nexus 4
by asupcb on Tue 30th Oct 2012 05:44 UTC in reply to "Nexus 4"
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Member since:
2005-11-10

I agree with everything that you said except for the LTE part. The new Nexus 4 supports 42Mbps+ HSPA+. It's actually faster than almost all LTE networks in current existence now and for the next two to four years.

Outside of the US, a lot of mobile carrier companies will not be making truly significant upgrades in LTE until LTE Advanced (real 4G by ITU standards instead of marketing buzz) because current (3.9G) LTE carries little benefit compared to advanced UTMS networks for the majority of use cases outside of those that depend on lower latency. LTE upgrades make sense in the US because it is a major upgrade for CDMA based networks, such as those used by Verizon, Sprint, and many of the minor regional operators which make up over half of US carrier operations.

Outside of the US, focusing on improved UMTS/HSPA makes a lot more sense.

LG should probably just release a CDMA/US focused version that incorporates CDMA/LTE support.

Edited 2012-10-30 05:46 UTC

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RE[2]: Nexus 4
by WorknMan on Tue 30th Oct 2012 05:57 in reply to "RE: Nexus 4"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

I agree with everything that you said except for the LTE part. The new Nexus 4 supports 42Mbps+ HSPA+. It's actually faster than almost all LTE networks in current existence now and for the next two to four years.


How does that equate to real-world speeds though? When I was on Verizon and had their Galaxy Nexus, I could get 15-20mbps when the reception was good. However, the radio on that phone was ass, so I switched to the GSM version.

On my GSM Gnex with AT&T, the fastest I've managed is about 4mbps, and that was after tweaking the APN settings a bit, with 4 bars of HSPA+. A friend of mine with the same phone can sometimes hit 5-6mbps on his Gnex with T-mo, but a lot of times, his speeds are lower than mine.

So you see, that's a pretty big difference. It's not a huge deal for day-to-day usage, but really sucks when tethering ;)

Edited 2012-10-30 05:58 UTC

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RE[3]: Nexus 4
by gan17 on Tue 30th Oct 2012 14:46 in reply to "RE[2]: Nexus 4"
gan17 Member since:
2008-06-03

HSPA+ varies wildly from country to country. Obviously, no one is going to get 21Mbps, let alone 42Mbps. Thing is, I've noticed (from Speedtest rankings and whatnot) that many European and Asian 3.5G/HSPA+ speeds are pretty close to what the average American gets on Verizon LTE (though I can't speak for latency).

Where I live, I can get the equivalent of 10Mbps+ quite often, and around 14 during the early morning hours, and I live in a very saturated city. LTE just rolled out here a few months ago, and from what I've read, users get around 20Mbps if signal permits. So, yes, LTE is obviously faster, but it's not really 4G speed like many telcos claim, and our 3.5G/HSPA+ speeds aren't all that bad here. There's obviously much more room for LTE to get faster though (4x4 MIMO - 20MHz supposedly goes up to 325Mbps), but I suspect most telcos will have moved on to totally different tech before that.

Edited 2012-10-30 14:47 UTC

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RE[3]: Nexus 4
by modmans2ndcoming on Wed 31st Oct 2012 01:17 in reply to "RE[2]: Nexus 4"
modmans2ndcoming Member since:
2005-11-09

All the spectrum capabilities mean shit if the carrier does not connect their towers with enough back-haul to provide you with the speeds.

Even LTE can run like ass in those cases.

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RE[3]: Nexus 4
by JAlexoid on Wed 31st Oct 2012 11:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Nexus 4"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

You poor Americans...

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