'Valve: Linux more viable than Windows 8 for gaming'
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 29th Oct 2012 23:34 UTC
Games I'm not 100% sure this is actually word-for-word, but alas. "In a presentation at Ubuntu Developer Summit currently going on in Denmark, Drew Bliss from Valve said that Linux is more viable than Windows 8 for gaming. Windows 8 ships with its own app store and it is moving away from an open platform model." I feel like a broken record by now but here we go again: keep an eye on Valve, even if you're not into games. This is the company pushing NVIDIA and AMD to improve their Linux support, with enough clout and name to actually get stuff done. Valve doesn't mess around.
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RE[6]: It's a Valve's game
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 30th Oct 2012 16:31 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: It's a Valve's game"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

You don't know what you're talking about. Native Metro apps written in C/C++ are basically the same as native Win32 apps: They use D3D11, swap chain/flip mode, game loop, input events, raw mouse support, etc. I know because, unlike you, I've actually written Metro games; not regurgitated lame BS that I read on some blog.


Why so hostile? Did I insult you?

In any case, let's see how many serious games will be available through Metro one year from now. Hint: it'll be very little.

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RE[7]: It's a Valve's game
by lucas_maximus on Tue 30th Oct 2012 17:58 in reply to "RE[6]: It's a Valve's game"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

It will be very little because all the same APIs that have been around since forever are still there, and the irony will be that many will be bought via Steam.

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RE[8]: It's a Valve's game
by helf on Tue 30th Oct 2012 18:17 in reply to "RE[7]: It's a Valve's game"
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

Yeah, I dont quite see wtf thom is talking about.

The Metro UI and APIs does not affect games much, if any, as it stands. MS is keeping and improving the APIs games use and all the games need is a Metro frontend. Which would take an hour for a coder to whip up. Most games run fullscreen anyways.. sooo..?

So much fearmongering and unsubstantiated BS flying around the internet as to make one sick.

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RE[7]: It's a Valve's game
by tomcat on Tue 30th Oct 2012 19:53 in reply to "RE[6]: It's a Valve's game"
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

Why so hostile? Did I insult you?


If you find my comment that you don't know what you're talking about to be hostile, perhaps you should redefine your notion of the term hostility to be less egocentric.

In any case, let's see how many serious games will be available through Metro one year from now. Hint: it'll be very little.


Only developers who hate money will stay away from Windows 8. If Steam isn't on board, it's going to get steamrolled, and Newell knows it. Which is why he's whining. He doesn't want to share any cash with the ecosystem. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!

Edited 2012-10-30 19:54 UTC

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RE[7]: It's a Valve's game
by WereCatf on Tue 30th Oct 2012 20:15 in reply to "RE[6]: It's a Valve's game"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

In any case, let's see how many serious games will be available through Metro one year from now. Hint: it'll be very little.


Well, why would games need to be Metro? It doesn't provide anything useful to the developers, plus going Metro would mean the game wouldn't work on earlier Windows versions.

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RE[8]: It's a Valve's game
by lucas_maximus on Fri 2nd Nov 2012 20:14 in reply to "RE[7]: It's a Valve's game"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

There are already games being built in metro. Armed is a good example ... can run on tablet and x86.

http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/en-us/app/armed/a080e316-b7ff-4d81...

Nintendo Wii and the Kinect have pretty much proven that a lot of games the wider market want to play (not hardcore gamers like myself) things like Angry Birds or shorter simpler fun games.

I like stuff like Crysis myself, but when work get busy ... I tend to play a bit of street fighter or poker to cool off.

I work in the gaming industry and the amount of money people spent in flash slot games, When a slot game is released they easily generate half a million in revenue in the first few days.

Also believe it or not. Bingo is massive, I am making a Bingo site as my next project.

A HTML 5 bingo application that could run cross platform could be massive.

Edited 2012-11-02 20:17 UTC

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