Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 30th Oct 2012 19:15 UTC
Google "We know what Nexus means now. There can no longer be any doubt: a Nexus device is about openness first and foremost. That does not mean Google won't make compromises with the Nexus program. It simply means that Google will only make compromises when it comes to increasing openness. Why? Because Google benefits from open devices as much, or more than you do. Last year the technology sphere was busily discussing whether or not the Verizon Galaxy Nexus was a 'true' Nexus device. This year we have an answer: a Nexus controlled by a carrier is no Nexus. Rather than get in bed with Verizon, Sprint, or AT&T to produce an LTE version of the Nexus 4, we have HSPA+ only. Even the new Nexus 7 with mobile data is limited to this enhanced 3G standard." Interesting take on the whole thing - reeks a bit of finding a reason for a feature deficiency, but it does fit into the available facts.
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RE: Yeah, right
by bassbeast on Tue 30th Oct 2012 20:57 UTC in reply to "Yeah, right"
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2007-11-11

There is a dark cloud looming that threatens Google though more than any, which is probably why they are afraid to get in bed with a carrier, and that is the ever nastier data caps. I have a feeling we are gonna see the whole "net everywhere" thing die a HARD death because in a dead economy you have the carriers getting well...just plain NASTY when it comes to prices, both on mobile and at home, and this is gonna seriously hurt Google's bottom line.

I'll never forget what one of the fund managers said on Money matters the other day "If I click on an ad on my tablet its completely by accident and I rush to close it, because every ad costs me money with my data cap" and from the looks of things its ONLY gonna get worse here in the USA.

So I wish Google luck but I hope they are willing to invest in backbone because nobody is gonna be clicking on any ads when charged by the Mb.

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RE[2]: Yeah, right
by Morgan on Wed 31st Oct 2012 00:11 in reply to "RE: Yeah, right"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

The thing is, they are investing in backbone connections, at least they are trying to here in the US. They've rolled out fiber in select cities but it's far less than 1% penetration right now. And as fast and cheap as it is, and despite the fact that it's expected in my area within two years, I doubt I'll be on board. Believe it or not Comcast has actually started getting more consumer friendly over the past year. This past April they completely removed their already generous bandwidth cap, which opened the gate for us to start using Netflix and other streaming media exclusively and allowed my fiancée to cut her satellite service off for good. That alone gave us a $50/month net savings.

No, I'd rather have Comcast's ambiguous but improving stance on consumer privacy and friendliness than Google's "we give you cheap ungodly speeds, you give us your complete Internet history end-to-end". I'd rather not sell my soul just yet.

As for wireless backbone, well they didn't win their wireless spectrum auction but their actions made the process and results more open. They have also purchased the most aggressively marketed Android phone manufacturer in the US, and it just happens to be the biggest Android OEM for Verizon as well. I wouldn't be surprised if we see pressure from Google on the big V to start phasing out data caps. With LTE the caps are a joke anyway. I'm on Sprint so for me a data cap doesn't exist, but I'd like to think such a move would push AT&T back into the capless era. T-Mobile has already begun to remove caps for new accounts here as well.

Unfortunately for the rest of the world, Google remains a US-centric company. Most of the changes they will bring about will not make a dent outside our borders, and that's too bad. Then again, perhaps the world is better off if Google stays on a leash...

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RE[3]: Yeah, right
by gan17 on Wed 31st Oct 2012 02:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Yeah, right"
gan17 Member since:
2008-06-03

Unfortunately for the rest of the world, Google remains a US-centric company. Most of the changes they will bring about will not make a dent outside our borders, and that's too bad. Then again, perhaps the world is better off if Google stays on a leash...

Would you mind enlightening me on this bit? I'm not all that familiar with what Google's providing aside from the high-speed broadband to certain states.

If anything, I would've imagined Google be more rest-of-world-centric than most US tech companies. With regards to this article at least, and the Nexus 4 in particular, one would think they're giving the ROW more preference over the US this time round by making it a pentaband only device, and lowering the cost to about (a bit more than) half what you'd usually pay for a similarly spec'd unlocked Android halo handset.

I realize some of Google's services are US only, but that's more to do with bureaucratic/legislative/licensing issues in other countries that prevent them (which might or might not be a good thing). Google Voice would be one example, I suppose.

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RE[3]: Yeah, right
by JAlexoid on Wed 31st Oct 2012 10:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Yeah, right"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Comcast's ambiguous but improving stance on consumer privacy and friendliness

Every time I used to get a support request for the software that monitors any IP traffic of the many American ISPs I couldn't stop thinking that all of the privacy loving Americans are massive wussies. If you value your privacy so much then get a law through to make privacy protected.

Marketing data based on your IP traffic is being sold in a worse form than Google does.

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RE[2]: Yeah, right
by JAlexoid on Wed 31st Oct 2012 10:39 in reply to "RE: Yeah, right"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

"If I click on an ad on my tablet its completely by accident and I rush to close it, because every ad costs me money with my data cap"

On the other hand, it might drive up the value and price of a click. If your click is intentional then it's much more valuable than an unintentional click.

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