Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 30th Oct 2012 18:10 UTC
Windows Steve Ballmer has just announced that in the first three days of being on sale, more than 4 million people have bought the Windows 8 upgrade. This doesn't count OEM installations or Microsoft's own Surface - just individual upgrades. Definitely a promising start for Windows 8, but then, these are most likely enthusiasts (I'm one of those four million), so we still don't know a whole lot. I'm patiently waiting for the response from regular consumers.
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Not Ringing My Bell So Far
by HappyGod on Wed 31st Oct 2012 01:04 UTC
HappyGod
Member since:
2005-10-19

Windows 8 is the first version of Windows I actually bought with money since Windows 95. And even that I went in thirds with two other student friends.

The experience so far has been less than stellar:

int msUpgradePointsTally = 0;

1. I download the "upgrade assistant" app to check whether I could upgrade. This made me a bit nervous as I was running a pirate version of Win7. And ... it didn't work.

The .exe kept crashing as it tried to "unpack its box". Executing my Google-fu, I quickly learned that this link is duff, and that you have to download it several times before it will work: msUpgradePointsTally--;

2. I start the install, and it provides me with a few options about keeping all my crap. Essentially: upgrade with your programs, with just your personal stuff, or with nothing.

I choose "with my programs", and it informs me that Windows Media Center isn't supported, and therefore that whole option is unavailable!! So because 1 app isn't compatible, I have to re-install everything!? msUpgradePointsTally--;

3. I "choose" to upgrade with my personal stuff, and get to the payment screen. I choose PayPal. Crash. msUpgradePointsTally--;

4. After the upgrade Windows politely explains that my screen resolution is too low for "Windows Snap" to work (or something like that). I think to myself; "Who cares. Sounds like something I don't need anyhow, Right?".

Wrong. Turns out that if your resolution is too low for snap. It's too low for everything! As a consequence I cannot run any Metro app. The entire Win8 start screen is just a bunch of pretty boxes of no bloody use whatsoever. msUpgradePointsTally--;

5. I finally get the damn thing installed. It's my media PC, so it's time to get MS' free Media Center pack. I jump online and fill out the form. It says, "Your product key has been sent to you!". So I wait. Hours go by. Days go by. Nothing.

Time for Google-fu. Turns out that the screen did in fact warn me that my key could take "up to 24 hours". There was some MS guy trying to defend this wait. But there is no defense. It's ridiculous. Anyhow, day 3, and I finally got it in my inbox this morning.
msUpgradePointsTally--;

Console.WriteLine(msUpgradePointsTally);
-5


Epic fail.

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RE: Not Ringing My Bell So Far
by Morgan on Wed 31st Oct 2012 02:06 in reply to "Not Ringing My Bell So Far"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

I download the "upgrade assistant" app to check whether I could upgrade. This made me a bit nervous as I was running a pirate version of Win7. And ... it didn't work.


Seriously? You expected a legitimate commercial OS to upgrade your pirated, hacked version? You were setting yourself up for failure, but I think that was the point of your "experiment". Next time try installing from scratch like any other sane person would when faced with your situation. You just invalidated the rest of your rant with this bullshit.

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HappyGod Member since:
2005-10-19

"I download the "upgrade assistant" app to check whether I could upgrade. This made me a bit nervous as I was running a pirate version of Win7. And ... it didn't work.


Seriously? You expected a legitimate commercial OS to upgrade your pirated, hacked version? You were setting yourself up for failure, but I think that was the point of your "experiment". Next time try installing from scratch like any other sane person would when faced with your situation. You just invalidated the rest of your rant with this bullshit.
"

Wow. I think it might be time to switch to decaf there buddy.

Precisely none of the issues I encountered were the result of the fact that my copy was pirated. And for each of the issues I encountered there are many thousands of people on fora with precisely the same issues, who were not running a pirated version.

Now, step away from your keyboard. Make yourself a nice cup of tea, and go do the crossword.

Edited 2012-10-31 02:28 UTC

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RE: Not Ringing My Bell So Far
by WereCatf on Wed 31st Oct 2012 02:08 in reply to "Not Ringing My Bell So Far"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

2. I start the install, and it provides me with a few options about keeping all my crap. Essentially: upgrade with your programs, with just your personal stuff, or with nothing.

I choose "with my programs", and it informs me that Windows Media Center isn't supported, and therefore that whole option is unavailable!! So because 1 app isn't compatible, I have to re-install everything!? msUpgradePointsTally--;


Wow, now that I didn't know. Talk about piss-poor execution of the upgrade! Hell, I can imagine almost everyone having atleast one unsupported application, meaning that people will have to re-install everything.

4. After the upgrade Windows politely explains that my screen resolution is too low for "Windows Snap" to work (or something like that). I think to myself; "Who cares. Sounds like something I don't need anyhow, Right?".

Wrong. Turns out that if your resolution is too low for snap. It's too low for everything! As a consequence I cannot run any Metro app. The entire Win8 start screen is just a bunch of pretty boxes of no bloody use whatsoever. msUpgradePointsTally--;


That's something I, too, found exceedingly stupid on Microsoft's part. Having low-resolution displays is not uncommon, and it says quite a lot about this whole thing that it's too inflexible to be able to accommodate various screen resolutions.

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blitze Member since:
2006-09-15

Low resolution display?? What are you running 640 x 480?? Metro should be handling 1280 x 768 or so. It was designed with tablets and phones in mind.

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RE: Not Ringing My Bell So Far
by blitze on Wed 31st Oct 2012 06:54 in reply to "Not Ringing My Bell So Far"
blitze Member since:
2006-09-15

in the case of having an incompatible app like Media Center in your case or Microsoft Security Essentials in my case, you just have to uninstall the offending app. At least that is what I did for a Win 7 Professional upgrade to Win 8. Not rocket science and definitely a far cry from having to reinstall everything.

For my Envy 17 with Adobe software and Reaper the process was painless and even though I am located in Finland I was able to pay for the upgrade with my Australian CC. Just used Finnish Post Code with Australian billing address. I do wish though companies would offer better options with regards to multi country living and finance but it worked here.

As for the OS well shortcuts via keyboard in desktop are good and ribbon in explorer is the way it should be. There if you need and not otherwise. Thanking MS for getting rid of Aero too.

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RE: Not Ringing My Bell So Far
by n4cer on Wed 31st Oct 2012 17:01 in reply to "Not Ringing My Bell So Far"
n4cer Member since:
2005-07-06

4. After the upgrade Windows politely explains that my screen resolution is too low for "Windows Snap" to work (or something like that). I think to myself; "Who cares. Sounds like something I don't need anyhow, Right?".

Wrong. Turns out that if your resolution is too low for snap. It's too low for everything! As a consequence I cannot run any Metro app. The entire Win8 start screen is just a bunch of pretty boxes of no bloody use whatsoever. msUpgradePointsTally--;


This is not true.
Snap requires a minimum resulution of 1366x768.
Metro requires a minimum resolution of 1024x768.

As long as your screen resolution is at least 1024x768, you should be able to run Metro apps regardless of whether your resolution supports Snap.

If your resolution is below 1024x768, then you cannot run Metro apps.

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