Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 30th Oct 2012 18:10 UTC
Windows Steve Ballmer has just announced that in the first three days of being on sale, more than 4 million people have bought the Windows 8 upgrade. This doesn't count OEM installations or Microsoft's own Surface - just individual upgrades. Definitely a promising start for Windows 8, but then, these are most likely enthusiasts (I'm one of those four million), so we still don't know a whole lot. I'm patiently waiting for the response from regular consumers.
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RE[2]: WindowzzZ
by WereCatf on Wed 31st Oct 2012 05:01 UTC in reply to "RE: WindowzzZ"
WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

Have you guys noticed how he never actually responds to anything whatsoever, he only goes on to blather about this "jitter" and how he has worked so and so hard to minimize it. Then he proceeds to make this or that ignorant and baseless comment about Windows and goes away, only to re-appear some other day again in another thread to repeat the same thing?

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RE[3]: WindowzzZ
by Morgan on Wed 31st Oct 2012 06:18 in reply to "RE[2]: WindowzzZ"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Oh I know he's a classic troll, and I usually ignore him. But I happened to have been dealing with the sound latency issues I described above so I felt moved to comment. I know I won't get a response from him.

I am tempted (based on conversations you and I have had on Google+) to try a Gentoo install on my Mac mini. I wonder if I could "de-jitter" the kernel to the point where I have as low latency there as in Windows. ;)

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RE[4]: WindowzzZ
by WereCatf on Wed 31st Oct 2012 08:34 in reply to "RE[3]: WindowzzZ"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

I am tempted (based on conversations you and I have had on Google+) to try a Gentoo install on my Mac mini. I wonder if I could "de-jitter" the kernel to the point where I have as low latency there as in Windows. ;)


Gentoo is a lot of work, especially if you haven't used it before, but I love how it offers so much potential. As I have mentioned it literally flew even on my Nokia N900, and that thing is seriously underpowered. One just has to know what features to tick, which ones to leave out, and what CFLAGS to apply. Oh, and kernel configuration matters also quite a lot -- there's hundreds of pages of documentation on how to optimize the kernel for this or that task on Gentoo.

Granted, I don't do music stuff -- I'm about as creative as a round rock -- and therefore I can't offer much guidance on that, but atleast on Gentoo it's terribly easy to include support for JACK everywhere and leave PulseAudio out if you have no need for it, and a quick google reveals quite a few discussions about how to go about creating a real-time Gentoo-installation.

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RE[3]: WindowzzZ
by Soulbender on Wed 31st Oct 2012 06:55 in reply to "RE[2]: WindowzzZ"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Have you guys noticed how he never actually responds to anything whatsoever


Oh sometimes he does but it's just more insane drivel and nonsense.

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RE[3]: WindowzzZ
by marcp on Wed 31st Oct 2012 09:02 in reply to "RE[2]: WindowzzZ"
marcp Member since:
2007-11-23

Oh, really? I don't know this guy, but he is NOT being aggressive in his post [he is just expressing his own thoughts on the subject], while user Morgan was ... Just take a look at his post and the ending.

That being said, I'm not shocked that the original poster did not want to reply to this. He's probobly affraid of being attacked again.

The real problem are people who bash others and call everyone a troll almost immediately. THAT looks like trolling to me.


P.S swearing is such a weak thing. Could you please stop doing this? show your dignity and don't swear in public.

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RE[4]: WindowzzZ
by Morgan on Wed 31st Oct 2012 09:34 in reply to "RE[3]: WindowzzZ"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Oh, really? I don't know this guy, but he is NOT being aggressive in his post [he is just expressing his own thoughts on the subject], while user Morgan was ... Just take a look at his post and the ending.


I know you've already spoken directly to me below, but since you keep bringing me up, I felt I should respond. I countered his take that Windows has severe latency problems with my own experiences on the matter. I said the word "hell" which is not even PG rated in most media. That's what people do on a discussion forum: They discuss things! I know it's a novel concept for you but you'll get the hang of it soon enough.

That being said, I'm not shocked that the original poster did not want to reply to this. He's probobly affraid of being attacked again.


I don't think he's afraid of anything; my past experience with talking to him has been that he is anything from dismissive to rude depending on the subject matter. He also tends to babble way off subject at times.

The real problem are people who bash others and call everyone a troll almost immediately. THAT looks like trolling to me.


Like you did to me below? Tit for tat, my friend.


P.S swearing is such a weak thing. Could you please stop doing this? show your dignity and don't swear in public.


OOPS! I said "tit" above, I hope I didn't burst your virgin ears with that one. First of all, if cursing were a problem here there would be a swear filter. The occasional expletive isn't going to kill anyone, and if someone doesn't want to see it there are plugins for all the major browsers that cover it. Instead of being passive-aggressive and telling others what to do, why don't you get off your virtual ass and install a filter if you object to it that much?

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RE[3]: WindowzzZ
by BeamishBoy on Wed 31st Oct 2012 22:20 in reply to "RE[2]: WindowzzZ"
BeamishBoy Member since:
2010-10-27

I've just spent some time reading his posts here, as well as his blog. He's terrifically mental.

It's genuinely disturbing that people like this actually exist outside of fiction.

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RE[3]: WindowzzZ
by bassbeast on Thu 1st Nov 2012 21:27 in reply to "RE[2]: WindowzzZ"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

What is hilarious, at least to me, is he isn't even using the word correctly! Its obvious what he is describing is "skipping" and NOT jitter, which was the way the old CRTs would "flicker" from EMF interference.

And most likely the reason he is suffering from video skipping is that "Mr Leet" has gotten himself so badly pwned that he has more viruses than his machine can possibly run, but he's too "leet" to admit he don't know what he's doing and needs help.

We ran into one of these "leet" Linux users at the shop, he actually had an email relay installed on his machine because he thought Linux was "magical" and never needed updating and got himself pwned.

I do think its funny his "dirty poo poo head" word is faggot, as that seems to be the favorite word along with the N word for halo playing HS dropouts everywhere. I personally enjoy pointing out the foolishness of little smart mouths like this, picturing him foaming at the mouth like Angry German Kid while he screams "FAGGOT!" at the screen is really funny. Look at the previous post on Win 8, he ended up posting no less than NINETEEN TIMES just to call me a dirty poo poo head...now THAT is funny!

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RE[4]: WindowzzZ
by Soulbender on Sat 3rd Nov 2012 05:02 in reply to "RE[3]: WindowzzZ"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

like Angry German Kid while he screams "FAGGOT!" at the screen is really funny.


Sorry, couldn't resist:
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/online_gaming

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