Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 29th Oct 2012 23:34 UTC
Games I'm not 100% sure this is actually word-for-word, but alas. "In a presentation at Ubuntu Developer Summit currently going on in Denmark, Drew Bliss from Valve said that Linux is more viable than Windows 8 for gaming. Windows 8 ships with its own app store and it is moving away from an open platform model." I feel like a broken record by now but here we go again: keep an eye on Valve, even if you're not into games. This is the company pushing NVIDIA and AMD to improve their Linux support, with enough clout and name to actually get stuff done. Valve doesn't mess around.
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RE: wine/crossover
by WereCatf on Thu 1st Nov 2012 06:37 UTC in reply to "wine/crossover"
WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

While I'm at posting links related to linux gamming...

"CodeWeavers will be giving away their Wine-Based CrossOver software tomorrow for free."

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIxODM


I'm rather surprised there was so little discussion about this. I don't use Linux on my desktop, but I still grabbed CrossOver Linux just in case I come to have use for it. It sure beats using plain, old Wine in many aspects, one of those being the one-click installers for many things.

To stay on the topic, though, I noticed that Steam's GUI alone receives only silver for compatibility. Granted, Steam's GUI is ridiculously bloated and inefficient, but the low compatibility still goes to show that a native port will be welcome. I just hope Valve will make one or another way of launching Windows - games via Wine/CrossOver from the Linux-native client, otherwise many people will have to keep both Windows- and Linux-based clients installed and that'll feel quite a convoluted solution.

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RE[2]: wine/crossover
by bassbeast on Thu 1st Nov 2012 09:45 in reply to "RE: wine/crossover"
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2007-11-11

Why do you say its bloated? I just fired it up, its using a whole 54Mb, which considering we ARE talking about a gaming platform is rather small, since most of the games other than the indie stuff takes at least 2Gb+ nowadays.

And as far as inefficient I really don't know what they would change to make it "better" and it sure as HELL beats GFWL by a country mile. You launch, it has nice little tabs for the various functions, you start typing the name of what you want and it shows up on a list. It also has the $5 games and $10 games in nice little lists on the first page, easy to find, and compared to GFWL its a slice of heaven.

If you want to try bloated and broken accidently buy a game that requires GFWL and see what PAIN with a capital P is. Every time you go to log in you need to do it TWICE, because it seems to auto-sign out on launch, and when you search for a game, while you are ON THE FRICKING PC searching? X360 games, that is ALL it will show you, page after page of X360 games. Hell try to buy DLC for a game, good damned luck. Try finding "Minerva's Den" for Bioshock 2, I wanted to give it to my oldest since the story is great...can't find it, can NOT find it ANYWHERE in GFWL, oh they'll offer me the X360 version but NOT the PC. So if I want to hand him Minerva I'll end up having to go to TPB because Steam don't carry it and GFWL is broken and won't show it to me, even though I already bought it from them once for mine!

So while I wish Valve nothing but luck frankly I can't find a problem with Steam for Windows, its easy to run, easy to buy from, takes care of all the patches and matchmaking and chat, it "just works" for me and my family and I honestly have no complaints.

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RE[3]: wine/crossover
by WereCatf on Thu 1st Nov 2012 11:05 in reply to "RE[2]: wine/crossover"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Why are you constantly so damn angry? Cool down a little, you're going to pop a vein! :o

Why do you say its bloated?


Because it is. With no window open, with no download, no chat, no nothing going on it takes 87 megabytes on RAM, and when I open the main window RAM-usage jumps to 147 megabytes.

I just fired it up, its using a whole 54Mb, which considering we ARE talking about a gaming platform


False. It is not a gaming platform per se. It's merely a front-end to the Steam website plus chat and the necessities needed to manage one's games and applications. Oh, and Steam DRM, which actually doesn't take much more than a mere few megabytes.

is rather small, since most of the games other than the indie stuff takes at least 2Gb+ nowadays.


Apples and oranges. You're comparing a store front-end to games.

And as far as inefficient I really don't know what they would change to make it "better" and it sure as HELL beats GFWL by a country mile.


That I agree with, but then again, that was never questioned by anyone.

If you want to try bloated and broken accidently buy a game that requires GFWL and see what PAIN with a capital P is.


I actually have several ones. One of my favorites is Batman: Arkham Asylum, which is unfortunately spoiled a bit by GFWL.

So while I wish Valve nothing but luck frankly I can't find a problem with Steam for Windows, its easy to run, easy to buy from, takes care of all the patches and matchmaking and chat, it "just works" for me and my family and I honestly have no complaints.


I have actually a lot of small niggles and complaints about it. One of the things that often bothers me is how it completely ignores Windows user accounts.

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