Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 3rd Nov 2012 02:14 UTC
Google "The Nexus 4 is absolutely wonderful, but it's also vexing. Frustrating. Annoying. It's easily the best Android phone on the market right now, and has some of the most powerful software that's ever been put on a mobile phone. It's an upgrade from last year's Galaxy Nexus in every way. It's terrific - save for one small thing. " Lack of LTE, obviously. Bigger issue for me as a European: glass back. Apparently it cracks. Who'da thunk?
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RE: is this a phone?
by WorknMan on Sat 3rd Nov 2012 06:09 UTC in reply to "is this a phone?"
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

Once again Google proves it hasn't a clue.


You'll probably get modded down for that comment, but you are exactly right. When the iPhone 4s came out, Fandroids blasted it for not having LTE, not having a removable battery, not having an SD card slot, having a glass back that could shatter easily, etc. Now that the Nexus 4 is out, the irony is certainly not lost on me.

And this isn't any ordinary Android phone either - it's the phone that those of us who wanted stock Android and care about timely updates were told we are supposed to buy. That makes it the flagship Android phone, and really the only one that matters. And now Android users are expected to choose between a phone that has been violated by carriers and one with specs mostly straight out of 2010.

This is a sad, sad day for the Android community, and Google should be ashamed. If Apple can give us a phone with LTE on all major networks that is untouched by carriers, why can't Google? If you think HSPA+ is fine, you obviously haven't lived in an area with good LTE coverage, and experienced the difference between 20mbps and 4mbps.

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RE[2]: is this a phone?
by some1 on Sat 3rd Nov 2012 16:03 in reply to "RE: is this a phone?"
some1 Member since:
2010-10-05

iPhone was never designed to be sold off contract, so the excuses to not have LTE it had none. Nexus 4 is an experiment with a completely unlocked phone. As a consumer I'd prefer a fully "productionized" phone, of course, but Nexus line was always on the experimental side, with Google's partners producing mainstream devices. Google clearly doesn't treat sales of Nexus the same way as Apple treats sales of iPhone, allowing itself more room for research.
I'm more concerned about glass back than anything else (rigid back of my gnex feels quite nice). We'll see how it goes. And if you want some features not in Nexus 4 you can always, you know, buy another phone.

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RE[3]: is this a phone?
by henderson101 on Sun 4th Nov 2012 01:57 in reply to "RE[2]: is this a phone?"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

iPhone was never designed to be sold off contract,

What are you talking about? That is absolute crap!!! I can walk in to an Apple Store today, buy an unlocked iPhone and walk out with zero contract. Don't judge the entire world by your market. Most countries, other than the US, that sell the iPhone now support this model. I can also buy an iPhone subsidised by a UK carrier, but then I can also buy a Nexus phone subsidised by a carrier here. The subsidy has nothing to do with the actual phone's capability. Indeed, I have an old iPhone 4 that is carrier unlocked, and was throughout the contracted period to O2, from about 1 month in. The only reason it was delayed was that O2 didn't start unlocking iPhone 4's right away... had to wait till the demand subsided so that unscrupulous individuals didn't fraudulently buy them, unlock and then sell for a profit.

In short - I call bullshit.

Edited 2012-11-04 01:58 UTC

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RE[2]: is this a phone?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Sat 3rd Nov 2012 16:42 in reply to "RE: is this a phone?"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

And this isn't any ordinary Android phone either - it's the phone that those of us who wanted stock Android and care about timely updates were told we are supposed to buy. That makes it the flagship Android phone, and really the only one that matters. And now Android users are expected to choose between a phone that has been violated by carriers and one with specs mostly straight out of 2010.


The best solution is always to find the phone with the specs you care about and has a cyanogenmod build available. For people who want the best android experience, anyways.

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RE[2]: is this a phone?
by Radio on Sat 3rd Nov 2012 22:20 in reply to "RE: is this a phone?"
Radio Member since:
2009-06-20

"Once again Google proves it hasn't a clue.


You'll probably get modded down for that comment, but you are exactly right. When the iPhone 4s came out, Fandroids blasted it for not having LTE, not having a removable battery, not having an SD card slot, having a glass back that could shatter easily, etc. Now that the Nexus 4 is out, the irony is certainly not lost on me.

"The irony is completely lost on you.

A ton of fandroids are angry and calling out Google on its choices - and not drinking the kool aid, or living in the reality distortion field,or rewriting history like fanbois do. And the Nexus 4 for all it lacks is far cheaper than the similarly "crippled" iPhone 4 ever was.

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RE[2]: is this a phone?
by JAlexoid on Mon 5th Nov 2012 19:44 in reply to "RE: is this a phone?"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

If Apple can give us a phone with LTE on all major networks that is untouched by carriers, why can't Google?

iPhone is not untouched by operators. iPhone is tested on all the networks that officially sell it. New software releases go through a rigorous testing process. And it still gets stuff turned off at the request of operators.

One thing that is true - it has no bloatware. But otherwise it's not really that different from what Android releases go through.

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