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RE[3]: I wish networks would improve 2G/3G first
by Neolander on Sat 3rd Nov 2012 21:30
in reply to "RE[2]: I wish networks would improve 2G/3G first"
More recent 3G networks can also use IP, at least on the carrier side (probably most of what they care about, their side of the infrastructure; and what can be done in foreseeable future, since a lot of people will continue using old phones & it seems 2G is here to stay for a while) - some Huawei-supplied networks do that.
LTE deployment is generally also about more efficient utilisation of scarce spectrum resources - just like 3G was vs 2G. Not necessarily brining much higher speeds for the individual, but able to service more people in a given area with acceptable speeds.
LTE deployment is generally also about more efficient utilisation of scarce spectrum resources - just like 3G was vs 2G. Not necessarily brining much higher speeds for the individual, but able to service more people in a given area with acceptable speeds.
Honestly, I'll trust you on that one, though I still don't understand why the ITU would make such a big deal of 4G being an all-IP network in such a case.
And I doubt 2G/3G hybrid "sucks power at a crazy pace" you mostly just do one or the other - and since standby times are good, it strongly suggests the connections don't use much power when not-very-active.
This discussion reminds me of something... Haven't we already been talking about that in the past, before being stopped by OSnews' 5-day comment limit as usual ?
Anyway, I agree with you that 3G standby consumption alone should be too low to explain it, but it is my experience that in two different French cities (Paris and Grenoble), with two different phones (Nokia E63 and Sony Xperia Mini Pro), two different operators (Orange France and Bouygues Telecom) and my same old phone usage patterns (lots of texts, occasional web browsing and e-mails), I have always approximately halved my battery life by switching from EDGE-only connections to UMTS-only connections in my phone settings.
Which, combined with 3G's significantly more sloppy coverage in "difficult" areas like trains and big buildings, is why I tend to keep these little gadgets on EDGE unless I really need the extra speed
Edited 2012-11-03 21:37 UTC
RE[4]: I wish networks would improve 2G/3G first
by zima on Sat 3rd Nov 2012 21:47
in reply to "RE[3]: I wish networks would improve 2G/3G first"
Maybe they make a big deal because it's through-and-through IP? (and/or because when the story get going there were no IP 3G networks - which are still back-end only, I suppose essentially tunneling "legacy" services)
Yeah, we discussed it - but maybe not the limit stopped us, maybe there was not much more to add. And I must again point out that, if using the handset only for data (with data-only SIM, any "legacy" channel used only for control messages - which, considering long standby times, should be irrelevant), switching to UMTS from EDGE also ~halves battery life.
(likewise when switching to... LTE)





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More recent 3G networks can also use IP, at least on the carrier side (probably most of what they care about, their side of the infrastructure; and what can be done in foreseeable future, since a lot of people will continue using old phones & it seems 2G is here to stay for a while) - some Huawei-supplied networks do that.
LTE deployment is generally also about more efficient utilisation of scarce spectrum resources - just like 3G was vs 2G. Not necessarily brining much higher speeds for the individual, but able to service more people in a given area with acceptable speeds.
And I doubt 2G/3G hybrid "sucks power at a crazy pace" you mostly just do one or the other - and since standby times are good, it strongly suggests the connections don't use much power when not-very-active.
Edited 2012-11-03 21:03 UTC