Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 5th Nov 2012 23:40 UTC
Apple Another Apple-to-switch-Macs-to-ARM post. "Apple engineers have grown confident that the chip designs used for its mobile devices will one day be powerful enough to run its desktops and laptops, said three people with knowledge of the work, who asked to remain anonymous because the plans are confidential. Apple began using Intel chips for Macs in 2005." No idea when Apple will make the switch, but they will do it. I'm thinking 5-10 year timeframe.
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Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Tue 6th Nov 2012 07:17 UTC
Kroc
Member since:
2005-11-10

Are we not forgetting smartbooks?

Only Apple could pull this off simply because of the iOS library of apps. iOS is Apple's 25-year platform just as Mac OS was.

The wave of smartbooks that were promised in 2008 were never launched because of a perceived negative bias from consumers over the lack of Flash for ARM.

I perceive that Apple would pre-announce a 'smartbook' device (basically iOS + keyboard), allow developers to register to receive a prototype so as to get serious app development for a serious machine ready before it hit the shelves.

That said, I can't reconcile the mouse problem. If a smartbook has a keyboard, then where goes the touch? Reaching to the screen is bad for the arms, and a touch-pad / magic trackpad detaches you from being able to touch the content. It's the only reason I can think of why Apple has not released such a product yet.

Are we really to stick with Mac OS X for another ten years because Apple cannot reconcile their own competing platform that by nature abhors a keyboard?

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by darknexus on Tue 6th Nov 2012 11:36 in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Are we really to stick with Mac OS X for another ten years because Apple cannot reconcile their own competing platform that by nature abhors a keyboard?


Oh, I hope OS X sticks around and I think it'll have to. Why? iOS is too limiting, and Apple wants at least a small foothold in business. One of two things has to happen: Either OS X has to stick around, or Apple has to relinquish a little of its control over iOS. I'm betting it'll be the former, that way there's still a definitive line (as far as Apple is concerned) between the various products.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by henderson101 on Tue 6th Nov 2012 12:26 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
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2006-05-30

I code a lot in Codea, an IDE and development system for iOS/iPad. It has an emphasis on creating graphical apps, such as games, uses Lua as programming language, has full 2d/3d graphics access, and has a vibrant community. There's also a route to the App store by using a Mac based SDK. So, really I'm in a good position to answer this question.

The IDE will work with the on-screen and a Bluetooth keyboard. I go both routes. At a desk, I use my bluetooth keyboard (it's a targus model - pretty nice, though not on a par with the Apple version) and on the train, I tend to use the on-screen one. I develop code. Others develop amazing stuff. I can do 100% of the things I need on the iPad.. nothing requires an external app at all. The only thing you'd need the desktop for is the App Store, but nothing stops me from sharing the code with others - this doesn't require the App store. If there was an IDE that compiled native iOS apps on the iPad, I can't say that I'd ever touch a Mac again for iOS development.

On a side note - on my Nexus 7, I have AIDE - this is a full IDE and compiler for Android. It create a fully installable APK and lets one run it on the device natively. Couple that with the Bluetooth keyboard, and the experience is actually more pleasant than using a desktop machine and the super slow Android emulator.

Edited 2012-11-06 12:26 UTC

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by zima on Thu 8th Nov 2012 22:40 in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

The wave of smartbooks that were promised in 2008 were never launched because of a perceived negative bias from consumers over the lack of Flash for ARM.

Was it really about Flash or maybe fears about confusion with Windows-running netbooks, about software in general? (also poor choice of OS for such a machine)

Kinda like Linux-running netbooks mostly disappeared... (and they did support Flash)

That said, I can't reconcile the mouse problem. If a smartbook has a keyboard, then where goes the touch? Reaching to the screen is bad for the arms, and a touch-pad / magic trackpad detaches you from being able to touch the content. It's the only reason I can think of why Apple has not released such a product yet.

So... the display ~mirrored (with lower fidelity) on on a 2nd display ...build into the keyboard half, largely also on keys themselves? (yes, you've heard it first here! ;) ...except, that would be really "just" Optimus keyboard done proper & for a laptop)

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