Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 6th Nov 2012 11:37 UTC
In the News "This election won't hinge on technology issues. Just look at prevailing discussions this year at the national level: major candidates have sparred over Iran's nuclear ambitions, the role of government, inane comments on the female body, and to nobody's surprise, the economy. Despite that fact, many decisions will be taken up by the next US president and those in Congress that will affect the world of tech, and by consequence, the real lives of citizens and human beings around the world - from alternative energy, to the use of killer drones, the regulation of wireless spectrum, and policies that aim to control content on the internet. Your chance to vote is just around the corner. Here's what's at stake in tech this election, and how the major candidates could influence our future." Happy voting, American readers. Whatever you pick, please take at least a few minutes to consider that the implications of your choice do not end at the US border.
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RE[10]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Wed 7th Nov 2012 01:56 UTC in reply to "RE[9]: Comment by shmerl"
shmerl
Member since:
2010-06-08

You see, you yourself admit that the system isn't healthy, since third parties can't even gain any traction. Electoral college is part of what prevents it.

The argument of deadlock doesn't justify the current stagnation of 2 parties which don't represent the interests of many, while people can't really squeeze in any alternative because of the current system.

Sergey Brin even thinks that removing all parties is a good idea:

http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/06/google-co-founder-brin-calls-on-po...

While this might not be practical, however his characteristic of the current system problems is very to the point.

Edited 2012-11-07 01:59 UTC

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RE[11]: Comment by shmerl
by kenji on Wed 7th Nov 2012 17:07 in reply to "RE[10]: Comment by shmerl"
kenji Member since:
2009-04-08

You see, you yourself admit that the system isn't healthy, since third parties can't even gain any traction. Electoral college is part of what prevents it.


Hold on there. I said nothing of the system being unhealthy, those are your words. Third parties are irrelevant to me and I was making the point that third parties will not gain any ground. I wasn't lamenting, I was stating a fact.

On a related note, another independent was elected to the Senate last night. 2 out of 100 isn't progress nor regression but it shows that fringe politicians can be successful here when the conditions are right.

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RE[12]: Comment by shmerl
by Alfman on Wed 7th Nov 2012 23:41 in reply to "RE[11]: Comment by shmerl"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

kenji,

"Hold on there. I said nothing of the system being unhealthy, those are your words. Third parties are irrelevant to me and I was making the point that third parties will not gain any ground. I wasn't lamenting, I was stating a fact."

Do you hear yourself? Defending the lack of 3rd parties in democracy? That is not *genuine* democracy!

I understand why the ruling parties have zero incentive to fix this, they'd be dismantling the system which keeps them in control. Just as in business, some benefactors are pleased with the lack of competition. Turning a blind eye is one thing, but to boast that the lack of 3rd party competition isn't unhealthy for democracy? How audacious can you be??

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demetrioussharpe Member since:
2009-01-09

You see, you yourself admit that the system isn't healthy, since third parties can't even gain any traction. Electoral college is part of what prevents it.

The argument of deadlock doesn't justify the current stagnation of 2 parties which don't represent the interests of many, while people can't really squeeze in any alternative because of the current system.

Sergey Brin even thinks that removing all parties is a good idea:

http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/06/google-co-founder-brin-calls-on-po...

While this might not be practical, however his characteristic of the current system problems is very to the point.


If you look back in US history, some of our founding fathers opposed political parties & warned of the damage they'd cause.

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