Linked by Howard Fosdick on Thu 8th Nov 2012 02:24 UTC
Windows Microsoft is discontinuing Windows Live Messenger in 1st quarter 2013, forcing users to switch to Skype. Most would want to switch to Skype anyway with its more advanced capabilities, and the switch makes sense to Microsoft, since they purchased Skype for $8.5 billion last year. However, the move may be seen as typical Redmondian high-handedness by those using Messenger with dial-up. Technically Skype works with dial-up but in practice most agree you really need broadband for decent use. Will everyone view Messenger as replaceable by Skype?
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RE[2]: Alternatives?
by shmerl on Thu 8th Nov 2012 05:02 UTC in reply to "RE: Alternatives?"
shmerl
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2010-06-08

No, hangouts aren't using conventional XMPP/Jingle, since they perform custom server side multiplexing. XMPP/Jingle is moving in direction of standardizing client side multiplexing (with Muji). Obviously client side multiplexing is more demanding on the channel bandwidth, on the other hand it doesn't enforce heavy requirements on the XMPP server.

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RE[3]: Alternatives?
by zima on Thu 8th Nov 2012 06:44 in reply to "RE[2]: Alternatives?"
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2005-07-06

I wasn't really saying anything about tech details (see, that's the part which doesn't matter too much WRT adoption :p ), it's just that even Gmail whined a bit about its video feature being somehow integrated with Hangouts. Anyway, I mentioned it mostly because Hangouts roll out is, IIRC, when Gmail video came also to Android, which Alfman desired.

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RE[4]: Alternatives?
by shmerl on Thu 8th Nov 2012 06:52 in reply to "RE[3]: Alternatives?"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

I'm more interested in standard and interoperable solutions. Hangaouts will be Google only as far as I understand (while Google talk uses standard XMPP/Jingle and is interoperable with users from other servers). Hopefully Muji will get traction soon enough and will catch up in support in popular XMPP clients.

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