Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 8th Nov 2012 11:45 UTC
Microsoft "Last week I overheard two of the top Microsoft 'watchers' discuss the Office group having bet against Windows 8, presumably because Office 2013 is not fully a (set of) Metro (a.k.a., Windows Store) apps. Ok, as much as it pains me to defend Office I'm going to do so. I'm going to defend them because they are more right than wrong. Especially when you take a shareholder perspective. Not only will I defend what Office did for Windows 8, I'm going to defend some of their licensing decisions. Oh that should be fun." Insightful analysis of the current state of Office within the great context of Microsoft's current challenges. Written by Hal Berenson, former distinguished engineer and general manager at Microsoft.
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So what?
by PieterGen on Thu 8th Nov 2012 12:20 UTC
PieterGen
Member since:
2012-01-13

The article is not very convincing. In the first place, what do I (as a tech lover) care about the profitability of MSOffice. But apart from that, let's dissect the article:

A. ".. saturation of its traditional market for desktop productivity apps they have struggled to find ways to grow...response here has been to grow the Office suite, particularly through the creation of the Office Server products such as Sharepoint....."
My experience with Sharepoint is that only consultants like it, because it brings money. Users, when given the choice, prefer other software. It is overly complex and just a chore to work with.


B. "The second headwind has been the emergence of free, or extremely inexpensive, alternatives to Office. Response: A “Home and Student” edition.
Basically this is using the monopoly money to keep competitors out of the market. An illegal practice.


C. The third head-wind has been ....GMail and Google Apps Response: Office 365
Please compare Google Apps and Office 365. The first is limited but easy to use, the second is more feature rich but the usual Microsoft uber complex mess.

D. The fourth headwind has been the switch ... to informal communications such as email, instant messaging, and text messages. Microsoft has responded in numerous ways, from the addition of OneNote, to Lync.

DOes anybody actually USE Lync? And if it is so succesful, why does Microsoft kill it in favor of Skype? ;-)

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RE: So what?
by maethorechannen on Thu 8th Nov 2012 13:27 in reply to "So what?"
maethorechannen Member since:
2009-09-03

DOes anybody actually USE Lync?

Yes, we use both Lync and Skype at work. Lync is used because you don't need to friend (or whatever term Skype uses) people in the organization to IM/call them. We use Skype because the call quality is miles better, though only with people we closely work with (because the friending thing is a bit of a pain).

And if it is so succesful, why does Microsoft kill it in favor of Skype

Last I heard, it was WLM that was getting killed, not Lync (though I wish they would make Lync a bit more Skype like, especially when it comes to call quality).

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RE: So what?
by darknexus on Thu 8th Nov 2012 16:41 in reply to "So what?"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

I agree with most of your points, except for this one:

B. "The second headwind has been the emergence of free, or extremely inexpensive, alternatives to Office. Response: A “Home and Student” edition.
Basically this is using the monopoly money to keep competitors out of the market. An illegal practice.

While the first bit is valid, the second part is pure bullshit. It is not an illegal practice to offer a version of your product, at a cheaper rate, for various purposes. Educational discounts are not illegal. Period. Monopoly, in this particular instance, doesn't even enter into it. And, would you look at that? Despite your "monopoly" straw man, the alternatives are growing by leaps and bounds. iWork on the Mac and iPad, Google Docs on the web, etc. The market, in this case, is actually balancing itself out quite well. Those who buy office are, more often than not, *gasp* those who actually need it because of their job (e.g. they need access to Sharepoint projects). The enterprise will continue to use office for a while yet, but things always move slowly in the world of business IT, so that's far from a surprise. At the moment, everyone's benefiting. Microsoft need to get their act together, and other alternatives are gaining greater traction now than they ever have. It's about time we have some true competition in this arena, and at long last that's exactly what we're getting.

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RE[2]: So what?
by TemporalBeing on Thu 8th Nov 2012 18:15 in reply to "RE: So what?"
TemporalBeing Member since:
2007-08-22

Educational discounts are not illegal. Period.


Actually there is one scenarios where a Discount can be illegal - when you discount below what you filed with the Federal Government to charge the Federal Government on the GSA Schedule as by law, that is to be the lowest price.

Now, you can do it; but I wouldn't want to be you when getting caught.

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