Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 8th Nov 2012 20:54 UTC, submitted by Elv13
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RE[6]: Miguel has already spoken about these criticisms.
by lucas_maximus on Sat 10th Nov 2012 09:03
in reply to "RE[5]: Miguel has already spoken about these criticisms."
He totally misunderstood that, which is probably why he doesn't understand a lot of things. To blame his mistakes and that of others on the kernel just shows how little he understands.
No he didn't misunderstand that, you guys keep on misunderstanding the fact it is about the attitude ... the specifics are not important.
Software Engineering is as much about attitude as it is competence.
Linus has no qualms about breaking APIs within the kernel, but what the kernel did not do was break compatibility with userspace applications - i.e. external interfaces. That's something Linux desktop components have done time and time again.
Oh goody ... well people <insert device> are still breaking after updates.
RE[7]: Miguel has already spoken about these criticisms.
by segedunum on Sat 10th Nov 2012 13:29
in reply to "RE[6]: Miguel has already spoken about these criticisms."
No he didn't misunderstand that, you guys keep on misunderstanding the fact it is about the attitude ... the specifics are not important.
No, it wasn't about attitude at all. Miguel specifically talked about the Linux kernel breaking APIs without the slightest idea as to what actually gets broken around the kernel. What doesn't get broken are the external userspace interfaces, and Linux desktops have done that time and time and time and time again.
Oh goody ... well people are still breaking after updates.
Speak to your distributor. I fail to see how Linus is responsible or the updates they put together, but this kind of logic appears to be common. The point still stands that the kernels userspace interface have remained totally stable.





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He totally misunderstood that, which is probably why he doesn't understand a lot of things. To blame his mistakes and that of others on the kernel just shows how little he understands.
Linus has no qualms about breaking APIs within the kernel, but what the kernel did not do was break compatibility with userspace applications - i.e. external interfaces. That's something Linux desktop components have done time and time again.
Edited 2012-11-09 20:25 UTC